The Gracious Two - LIVE Show 084 - SoCal Spirit Seekers


The Gracious Two, Chad Gracey & John "JRo" Rotolo, discuss their upcoming guests the SoCal Spirit Seekers and their belief in ghosts. They reminisce about their school days, including JRo having to memorize the Gettysburg Address and his disdain for certain subjects like English.
The Gracious Two discuss the taboo nature of teacher-student relationships, highlighting the power dynamics and potential consequences. It also touches on the concerning trend of teachers engaging in inappropriate behavior with students, raising questions about oversight and background checks in the education system. The discussion then shifts to the political landscape, criticizing the Department of Education for its inefficiencies and advocating for state-level control of education funding.
The SoCal Spirit Seekers discuss their interest in the paranormal, with them sharing a childhood experience of seeing angels. They invite the Chad & John to join them on a paranormal investigation and express their support for Aaron from Ghost Adventures. The conversation also touches on a past encounter with Aaron’s fiancée, Victoria.
The SoCal Spirit Seekers share their experiences, including a can sliding across a table on the Queen Mary. They emphasize the importance of precautions and cleansing during investigations. The Queen Mary, with its rich history and numerous deaths, is considered one of the most haunted locations they’ve investigated.
Two sisters by different Misters, passionate about paranormal investigation, discuss their experiences, including a chilling encounter with the Grim Reaper on the Queen Mary. They share their fascination with the ship’s history and its connection to World War II, sparking a discussion about the possibility of spirits returning to places significant to their lives. The podcast also touches on their belief in demonic possession and its potential influence on human behavior, even in criminal acts.
The SoCal Spirit Seekers share their experiences, emphasizing the importance of open-mindedness when investigating the paranormal. They recount a chilling incident at the Joshua Tree Inn Motel, where a rock was thrown at them, and later, one of their protective bracelets shattered. The investigators believe in various paranormal phenomena, including dark spirits, shape-shifters, and UFOs, and are planning to investigate the infamous Skinwalker Ranch.
The conversation explores the possibility of living in a simulation, with theories ranging from human creation to alien origin. The discussion then shifts to the musical career of Chad Gracey, highlighting his humility and the impact of LiVe’s lyrics on popular culture. The conversation concludes with a personal anecdote about a fan’s connection to Gracey’s music and their shared love for Portland, Oregon.
The SoCal Spirit Seekers, a duo of friends with a shared interest in the paranormal, discussed their connection to angel numbers and their shared birthdays with the hosts. They expressed interest in collaborating on a paranormal investigation and possibly a follow-up episode. The hosts, who are planning a tour in May, invited the Seekers to join them for a sneak peek of their findings.
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And we are live, Mr. Gracey Show 84. My goodness,
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they're coming along. 84. You know, it's funny,
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when you first come on, when you do your end,
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we are live. It's delayed. So I have to watch
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your face because the vocals are delayed and
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then it catches up. Oh, as soon as you're done
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saying that you catch up. It's fun. It's funny
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how every time it does that. So anyway, the base
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is like and and we read. I probably look like
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a moron doing it, too, because I'm a little overacting
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while I'm doing it. I wonder if that I don't
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know if it goes out live like that. I'm not sure
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if it's. Oh, yeah. Restream. On the replay, it's
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good. But I wonder what it is on the live. Yeah,
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you're right. I think what they do is like some
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kind of almost like a four second delay for the
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live thing. So it could all buffer and catch
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up. So it goes out properly. Don't quote me 100
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percent on it. But that's what I heard. Dude,
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it's almost like we did. This is our third show
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this week. Yeah, we stacked this up. So I think
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I took your I took took our mandate of booking
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guests on different days a little bit too too
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much to the heart and booked them too close together.
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So we'll spread them out a little bit more. Getting
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zealous with it. I love it. It's cool. It's and
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we got a cool people coming on today. Soul Cal
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Spirit Seekers. Michelle and I'm not sure of
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the other lady's name because I was We'll have
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to find out when we get on, because I'm blanking
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on it right now, too. Sorry, girls. Sorry, ladies.
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Get it straightened out as soon as they come
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on. But yeah, it was great to have Sean on. That
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was an amazing episode. Oh, my God. That was
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fun. Very fun, dude. And this one's going to
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be great, too. I mean, because I've never seen
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or heard anything weird, but I believe in ghosts.
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So I'm going to watch a bunch of those shows.
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And I want to talk to him about Aaron from Ghost
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Adventures and all that fucking crazy shit that
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went down with his wife. Oh, my God. I haven't
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heard anything anything much since, but I heard
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he did file for divorce. Thank God. I have had
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paranormal things, so I am a little scared for
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this episode. And you want to take me on an investigation.
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So I'm kind of excited to do that. You are crazy,
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man. Like when I talked to Aaron though, I talked
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to Aaron he said sometimes that just that the
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spirits will follow them home He's had that done
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and they have to like clear it. So I want to
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ask the girls if that's happened to them That's
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what I'm saying, dude, like why would you even
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fuck with that? Like if there's a possibility,
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bro There was this one movie that I saw was like
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a bad like late 80s early 90s movie But it was
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like about ghosts and like they could like pick
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up when they were killer ghosts. You couldn't
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see them or anything. But they would like pick
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up an object like a knife and stab people and
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like just throw a fucking blow dryer into the
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into the toilet into the bath. Matt Frazier says
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he had one in Gettysburg. Gettysburg is way haunted,
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dude. Absolutely. He had an experience. That's
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what Matt Frazier on on Facebook just said. Maddie,
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I heard there's a lot of just being there whether
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you get like one specific spirit or not. Like
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there's a big vibe of like the heaviness of Gettysburg
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there. A lot of people died there. A lot of people
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died there. In our what is it our our revolutionary
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war? No, our civil war. It was the most American
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deaths in any war. The Civil War, I believe.
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So, yeah, because it was all Americans fighting,
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but. How crazy is that? Us fighting each other
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killed more American Bobby. Look up the death
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toll of the Civil War, please. Yeah. Thank you,
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Chad. Like, why do we even have to ask? You should
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have just been popping that in by Bay. My mom's
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texting me about my dad, so she said she swears
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that my dad would come back as like a like a
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squirrel or something and like tap at her window
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and stuff. I think she's had other experiences,
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too. A lot of people believe that, like, butterflies
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are a spirit or something, but certain... I don't
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know if it's where you came from or what, but,
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like, they relate back to animals or, you know,
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bugs or whatever, you know? And then if you take
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a picture and you see, like, a flash that's not
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supposed to be there, it's like... Orbs. Yeah,
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orbs are a very common video. Yeah. In electric.
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My mom's texting me right now. She came back
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in electric. I don't know what she's talking
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about. Clarifying mother came back in electric.
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Bobby says 620 ,000. Is that what that is? Yeah.
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Yeah. I think it was 450 ,000 died in World War
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Two. But yeah, that's the highest death toll.
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Crazy man. What was I going to say, man? And
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Bobby, look up the death count, the death toll
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in Gettysburg specifically. I think it's Frazier
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said 50 G's. 50 ,000. Yeah, I knew it was a five
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because I've read a whole I mean, we live 45
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minutes from Gettysburg grew up. I took school
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field trips there. I love going to the Gettysburg
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battlefield. And I read books about it. Like
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The Killer Angels was all about Gettysburg. And
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then I watched the movie that was four hours
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long. It was a great. But I know it was the movie
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actually called Gettysburg. Either that or Killer
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Angels, I think was Gettysburg. Yeah, 50k died
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in Gettysburg. So yeah pick its charge alone
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that five thousand men died or fifty five hundred
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something like that You know, I had to memorize
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the Gettysburg address for score and seven years
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ago Our forefathers brought forth upon this continent
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a new nation in fifth grade. We had to memorize
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that Oh, wow, and I remember you make them do
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it today fifth grader should be learning that
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they really should but I remember going into
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that thinking like his It's a lot, dude. It was
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like the first thing that I ever had to memorize
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and recite, you know, like you've already you've
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already learned how to read and all that stuff.
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But this was like the first thing where I had
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to memorize like paragraphs and recite. And I
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remember thinking I'm like, this is impossible.
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There's no fucking way I'm going to be able to
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do this. And I think we had like a week or maybe
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two weeks. I don't remember what the time frame
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was, but slowly, but like I literally had to
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keep reading it over and over and then my parents
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would fucking Had me recite it to him like this
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is a lot of work for a fucking speech that happened
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so long ago like why are like what is the Like
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what is the reason I have to memorize it? But
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this is dumb. Yeah And learning math was dumb.
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They said you'll never have you won't always
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have a calculator in your back pocket That's
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why you need to learn math And now we do with
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our phone. Oh, man. High school like high school
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geography and math for me. I fucking hated it
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because we had the band at that point. And we
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especially 11th and 12th grade were like, we're
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doing the band. Fuck this bullshit. I don't want
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to learn geography, like geometry and stuff.
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Yeah, 100 percent. I honestly think that if you
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want to get by in the world and like, you know
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what you want to do in life. Eighth grade is
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where you need to make cash shell. No, all gravy.
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I believe like eighth grade or maybe even sixth
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grade is where you need to make it to as soon
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as you could read, write and like do a little
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bit of math like, you know, your time stables.
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I feel like you could stop there and go tackle
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the world. Everything in high school was like
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extra. It was just like learning about stuff
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that really didn't like deal with your fundamentals.
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It was just adding more knowledge like American
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history and world history and even English. By
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the time you get to fucking high school, it's
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like We already know how to write sentences.
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I don't need to know about a dangling participle
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and fucking whatever the hell. I hate it. Yeah,
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I hate English class. It's so wacky. Dude, so
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the English teacher was his later name in ninth
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grade. Was it ninth, ninth or tenth grade named
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Mrs. Buckingham? Right. And I friggin hated her.
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I hate her because she was just I shouldn't say
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I just liked her very strongly. She was just
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mean. And and I just didn't like the class because
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I was like, why do I have to take English? I
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speak fucking English. So. But so at lunch early
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in that I think it's ninth grade anyway, I had
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this group of friends and There was this kid
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named Brendan. Oh shit Frazier. Yeah wish Mangan
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Brendan Mangan and he had a sister named Alice
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Mangan and we hung out with him all the time
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and so I'm sitting down at lunch one day and
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I'd like God damn. I fucking hate mrs. Buckingham
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And Brenda goes, that's my mom. Oh, shit. Wow.
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Sorry. So that was literally his mother. Well,
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she had a different last name, obviously. I was
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like, oh, my God, I had no idea. I'm so sorry.
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That's historical. So did he just like kind of
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was OK with it and just kind of left it there
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or was he like, yeah, yeah, yeah. It was we didn't
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take it past that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Leave it
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there. I grew up with all my friends wanting
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to bone my mother because she was a younger mother.
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She had me like 18 years old so they would always
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be talking about and I was clever like to the
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point so like they'd be like saying stuff at
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school and then they'd come over my house to
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eat like for for dinner and stuff and be like
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uh hey Sean what were you saying about my mom
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uh as my mom's there with us like feeding us
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like you were saying how hot she was and you
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wanted to date her and like embarrass the shit
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out of them and she was cool like would play
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along with you said that about me Sean oh my
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god Yeah, it was one of our one of our former
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guests. I'm not going to say his name because
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his brother was the the kid in high school who
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was doing the teacher. Ah, yeah, baby. Fucking
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hero. Obviously, it was like the hot young teacher.
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He was doing her hero. But, you know, nowadays
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nowadays it's all taboo and stuff. I mean, yeah,
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I'm not condoning that. Believe me, I'm not condoning.
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I'm just it's but it's funny. I kind of am like
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for for for like hot teacher, hot girl teachers
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to a guy. Jody, sorry. High schoolers. What up,
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Jody? But I mean, you're not unless it's like
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you're physically like holding this dude down.
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Every kid, every male at that age wants to fuck
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any like something. So a high school teacher,
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it's like. Yeah, because you're around her every
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day. You're interacting with her. It's like,
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oh, my God. Yeah. So hot. Exactly. Exactly. I
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just wish, you know, you made moves or whatever,
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because I bet you that's how a lot of it is.
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Like, you think these teachers like the female
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teacher is seeking out. the guy or do you think
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it's like he just like starts rubbing up on her
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and she's finally like, Oh, I'll tell you what,
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a lot of these stories lately of the teacher
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going after the students, it seems to be the
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teacher doing it, which is just, I don't know.
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It's, I mean, it's a lot of ways. It's really
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fricking weird. Even if you're in your twenties,
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you're gone after teenagers. Like, what are you
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doing? But, Oh, it's strange, dude. Yeah. The
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latest story that just came out, the woman had
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like a threesome or a foursome with like three
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other male students. He was getting them high
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and drunk and like making them do all kinds of
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stuff to her is like, Whoa, wow. Where that case
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was. I just saw some blurb on it on Instagram
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or something, but she was pretty hot blonde girl.
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Those four or three dudes probably learned everything
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she was teaching. I just said a male teacher
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in my high school got caught banging dudes from
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my high school home in the store room. Holy shit.
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I see a boy. Now that's a different story. That's
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a horse of a different color. Yeah, man. Crazy,
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crazy, crazy. Yeah. I mean, you start thinking
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about, like, because they say, like, what best
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profession for a pedophiles to go into, but like
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a priest, and then you just start thinking about,
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like, what are the other ones they would go through?
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And a teacher's probably a good one, too, because
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You know, they're around these kids and they
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gain their. So that's another worker. The Nickelodeon
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Disney worker. Yeah. Yeah, unfortunately. Like,
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there should be more like more oversight in that.
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And like the people who are, you know, producing
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all this kid, of course, a lot of some of some
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of it is like real innocent and stuff like that.
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But if you're really all into this kid stuff.
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Maybe they do like a double take on you and check
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out, you know, you a little bit further than
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just, oh, you'd think so. Yeah. Just hang out
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with 30 kids on your own, even though you're
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all into whatever, like just do a deeper dive
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into people hanging around our little ones. Yeah,
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a little bit better background check about that.
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Yeah, like you need to become a cop, right? Like
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you need to take like a psychological test. Like,
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I'm sure if you could root out. There's got to
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be some psychological tick that they could tell
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for pedophiles, like as they're talking to them,
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you know? Oh, I would think so. Yeah. Well, the
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proper psychologist could probably pick some
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stuff out. So why? Why for a teacher? Are there
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not more? I guess because they don't pay them
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enough. So it's like they would root out. I don't
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know. It's crazy if it comes down to that dollar
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amount, man. And teachers should be the highest
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paid fucking profession in America. They are
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literally producing which could be the future
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leaders of America. Well, exactly. And now I'm
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sure the you know, the left's been going crazy
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about the Department of Education, but that it
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was a useless entity. Right. All the money that
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went to students is going to continue to go to
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students, but now through the states. But 75
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percent of their budget was just admin and bullshit.
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And it's two hundred and sixty billion dollar
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a year budget. Seventy five percent of that was
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going to admin and bullshit. Admin and bullshit.
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Yeah. And when I say bullshit, I mean, DEI and
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fucking all this crap they're trying to indoctrinate
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the kids with. And now it's going to all that
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all the money that was going to this kids is
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actually going to go to the states and they can
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use the money the way the state seems sees fit.
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Now, of course, you have bureaucracy and all
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the crap going on in all the states, too. But
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at least it's not the federal government controlling
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it. And I mean, because we went from first to
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24th in the world. from when Jimmy Carter started
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the Department of Education. Did it work? I think
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not. Negative. Negative, sir. Michelle and Kristen.
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Kristen was the... Ah, Kristen, yes. Michelle
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and Kristen. Ladies, I'm going to mute you real
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quick because I got... Yeah, there was background
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noise. So I don't know if our audio is coming
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through your speakers and it's creating like
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a loop, but I muted you for a second. I'm going
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to unmute you, see if it... changed or anything,
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and your camera's not on, ladies. Christine,
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maybe, not Kristen, I'm not sure. Let's see,
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let me try and turn you back up. Ladies, can
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you hear me? No, we're still doing the old mute
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thing. I'm gonna back you ladies out and then
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try to rejoin. I think it's because you don't
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have earbuds or something. I think you have the
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audio coming through your device that you're
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on. Yeah, no, you can hear us. But when you your
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ladies come on, your audio starts to go in a
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loop and we start hearing. Yeah, we have a severe
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echo on our side. Yeah, we can hear ourselves,
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but it's delayed. I'm going to turn you back
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up one more time, see if it's gone. And then
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if not, I'm going to boot. Yeah. And how do you
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come back in? Yeah. Nope. Still still on that
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echo. Oh, we'll remove them real quick. So, ladies,
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I'm going to remove you. You're going to have
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to click that link. Come back in a live show,
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folks. Got to love it. Hey, hey. Hey, hey, hey.
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But this is a topic that might not be like might
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need longer to go on before we get the ladies
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back. But I shall said a new punk name admin
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and bullshit. I was like, yeah, that's cool.
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I do like that. Where's that comment? Let's put
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them up, give them some shout out. There we go.
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Cash out rock and roll. Myanmar or however you
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say it. We were kind of talking about it briefly
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before the show started. And if folks kind of
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just do their research and see where the world's
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opium has been produced, you know, over the past
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couple of decades, you will notice a pattern
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of a coup in the government changing and basically
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America going in and taking over like big time.
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Afghanistan being the one directly right before
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Myanmar that's going on now and, you know, a
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bunch before Afghanistan. But if you look, if
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you literally type in like where the world's
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obium is coming from, it's Myanmar as of right
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now. And they're going through a coup as we speak
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and just have like after these devastating attacks,
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earthquakes that are happening there. All suspect.
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All suspect. They put up Jody Bradford's quote
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there. What do we got here? Someone I knew most
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of my life, nicest guy in the world, took care
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of his mom when his dad passed away, is in jail
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for grooming. He was well, he was a well -loved
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coach and no one questioned when he was tutoring
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young women. Geez. That's what they do. They
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build up the trust and then they start violating
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people. Sad. Yeah. Damn. Oh, yeah, yeah. Damn.
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It's fucked up. The ladies are back. Let's see
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if we have fixed our issue. Ladies. Yes. Can
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you see and hear us? We cannot hear you. We can
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hear you. What? It's a black screen. Last time
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we went through this, the guy had a black jerk
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off stocking over his camera. Like we've done
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like three cams really quick to switch it out,
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but I mean should they should they check the
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camera button down below and see if The cameras
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turned on on the button on so let's see. I mean
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that's off and then we read it on We just saw
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something we just saw M and K come up on ours,
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too Well, I mean I don't mind doing them in black
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screen I love it. I mean, we push it for a living.
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I have no idea why it's not even playing. So
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we apologize. You want me to try to boot you
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out one more time and have you come back in?
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I mean, we can. I mean, maybe third time's a
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charm. You never know. Let's give it a whirl.
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All right. Kick our ass out. All right. Kick
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that with love. OK. And then Christine or Christa.
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Oh, wait. No, I didn't kick him out. Uh, there
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we go. Remove. Maybe, uh, maybe, maybe they need
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to read both our computer or something. I don't
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know what they're doing it on. Yeah. Or they
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could try like a iPhone. They could click that
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link with an iPhone or something. But I mean,
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we of course would love to see them, but, uh,
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it technically is a podcast and audio is all
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you need. We go bonus with the video. My mom
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was saying that. The lights and stuff would flicker
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in the house. Mm hmm. She thought my dad or even
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her dad would come visit her. She thinks so.
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Yeah. Yeah. I 100 % have heard that too. Jeff
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Hazel said no Rudders coffee today. No, I didn't.
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I didn't make it out to get my Rudders coffee
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today. Rudders. Yeah, that's a it's a local,
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you know, convenience store. What's the wawa?
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Is it cheats? Well, sheets is there's two separate.
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Wawa is a thing and sheets is a thing. Sheets
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is pretty big here as well. And Wawa is starting
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to encroach a little bit. Wawa is more Philly
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that way. Yeah. Lancaster. Yeah. I believe it's
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a Jersey company and the people who own Wawa,
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it's owned by a family. They'd never franchise
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out. So every Wawa is individual. They own individually
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and they treat their employees like really good.
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They if you work for them, they put you through
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college. They give you stock options. Yeah. Pretty
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like in and out, too. In and out. Same thing.
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They own every store and one family. Right. The
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woman that owns it. So here's here's the best
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Tinder story ever. The woman that owns friggin
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she inherited from her grandpa, I think, or her
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father. I think it was her grandfather. Oh, I
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heard your P .A. come out there, Chad, your grandpa.
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Sorry, grandpa. Worth like thirty four billion
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dollars. She met her husband on Tinder. I'm like,
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God. Damn it. Why can't I find her on Tinder?
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Right. Right. You imagine you're like, what do
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you do? Oh, my family owns in and out. Hey, hey
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now. Yeah, I would like it just so I could go
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to in and out like their fucking burgers are
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bomb. Well, they're coming east because they're
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they're moving their corporate headquarters in
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Nashville. They're getting the hell out of California.
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But so the reason so they have to you have to
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be able to get. They're fresh ingredients to
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stores within 24 hours. So they're they're they're
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moving into now Nashville. So hopefully they'll
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start hitting the East Coast. Damn. Still black
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screen. Still black screen. I have no idea why.
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Like this is a fairly new laptop. I think it's
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the spirits, girls. It's the spirits. Well, that's
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exactly what we said, like, 10 minutes ago. Mercury's
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in retrograde, by the way. Oh, there's that,
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too, yes. Damn. Chad, this gives me an idea,
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though. So we could now start booking, like,
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Demi Moore and having a fake voice and a black
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screen. Oh, my god. We're in AI right now. Oh,
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I love it. Beauty of the live show. So, yeah,
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we'll keep it going this way. We don't mind.
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figure it out. Yeah, I'm going to switch over
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to a couple different devices to figure it out.
00:23:07.819 --> 00:23:09.660
But you can ask us all the questions you want
00:23:09.660 --> 00:23:13.480
in the meantime. So we apologize for the difficulties.
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No worries. Michelle and Kristen or Kristina
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or Christine? It's Christine. Okay, sorry about
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that You would think I know how to pronounce
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it with the E at the end, but Did your parents
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name you with the KK RS cuz that's that's what
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throws everyone off I assume yeah, not CH R IST
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Ian. Yeah K is better. K is better, actually.
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Absolutely right. Special K. Yeah. So ladies,
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what had you get into this paranormal world?
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Because like, I'm like a scared little girl when
00:24:03.819 --> 00:24:05.519
it comes to stuff like that. And you actually
00:24:05.519 --> 00:24:08.240
are like girls. So I'm wondering what made you
00:24:08.240 --> 00:24:11.480
ladies get into this? who should go first? We'll
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let Christine go first. Why the fuck with the
00:24:13.240 --> 00:24:16.640
cameras? Okay, so my first paranormal experience
00:24:16.640 --> 00:24:19.980
is actually like, when I was around five years
00:24:19.980 --> 00:24:24.460
old, I actually seen angels. Um, it was really,
00:24:24.920 --> 00:24:28.019
really cool. When I was five, my brother and
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I were on the side of like a cliff because my
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dad parked and he wasn't watching us. So then
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my brother, he was four and he wanted to walk
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to the edge. Can I stop you one second? I'm so
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sorry here. I guess as Michelle is doing. Yes.
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Yeah. Oh, there they are. There we are. I love
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it. So the reason why we stopped is I guess Michelle
00:24:52.130 --> 00:24:54.250
was doing like getting the camera working and
00:24:54.250 --> 00:24:57.109
stuff. And we heard Christine talking and it
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was like like all. rapping and stuff going on.
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So I didn't want the audience to lose where you
00:25:02.640 --> 00:25:04.519
were going with that. So now that we could see
00:25:04.519 --> 00:25:06.880
it, we'll start from fresh. Right. What's up,
00:25:07.339 --> 00:25:12.559
boys? You need to know who's who. That would
00:25:12.559 --> 00:25:16.700
help your drinks first and foremost. I am Chad
00:25:16.700 --> 00:25:19.900
got a little toasty last night and has important
00:25:19.900 --> 00:25:25.160
meetings. So cheers, ladies. I got to speak to
00:25:25.160 --> 00:25:27.279
a lawyer at four o 'clock, you know. I'll just
00:25:27.279 --> 00:25:38.180
have this. He's a drunken spirit. So yeah, let's
00:25:38.180 --> 00:25:41.839
go. Talked about talks about your first paranormal
00:25:41.839 --> 00:25:44.519
experience and how paranormal experience was
00:25:44.519 --> 00:25:49.680
when I was five, I seen angels. And my dad had
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took me and my younger brother, which he was
00:25:51.619 --> 00:25:54.680
for at the time, on like this little hill, this
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cliff, you know, and he parked So my dad, like
00:25:58.430 --> 00:26:00.490
a lot of dads don't pay attention. So he walks
00:26:00.490 --> 00:26:04.269
away. And then my brother and I, he wanted to
00:26:04.269 --> 00:26:07.089
go to the cliff, the edge. And I'm like, no,
00:26:07.430 --> 00:26:09.450
even though I'm five, I'm protected. I'm like,
00:26:09.609 --> 00:26:12.170
no, don't go to the cliff. So we went to the
00:26:12.170 --> 00:26:15.710
edge. I walked him. I was holding his hand. And
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then when we looked down, we seen two angels
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and they both looked like, like us like our age,
00:26:22.619 --> 00:26:26.480
not us, but like our age group. Just the most
00:26:26.480 --> 00:26:29.279
angelic paranormal experience I ever had in my
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life. So that was like this. What makes you like
00:26:32.779 --> 00:26:35.740
protecting you in case you fell off or. Yeah,
00:26:35.980 --> 00:26:39.220
that's what I think. They're protecting us. Interesting.
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That's cool. Did your brother see them, too?
00:26:42.019 --> 00:26:45.079
Yes. And to this day, he remembers. Yeah, they
00:26:45.079 --> 00:26:47.160
still talk about their conversations that we
00:26:47.160 --> 00:26:51.190
hear at supper time lately. Yeah. That would
00:26:51.190 --> 00:26:53.410
be a big, big life event to talk about. Yeah,
00:26:53.410 --> 00:26:56.950
it was. I was wondering why you said angels.
00:26:57.089 --> 00:26:59.470
I'm guessing because they stopped you from from
00:26:59.470 --> 00:27:02.650
going off. Falling like they were angels. There
00:27:02.650 --> 00:27:06.710
was wings like it was angels. Ah, okay. Yeah,
00:27:06.789 --> 00:27:09.910
I seen wings and all like they were our age basically
00:27:09.910 --> 00:27:12.150
almost like little guardian angels, but they
00:27:12.150 --> 00:27:14.630
were our age. Looking back and you see their
00:27:14.630 --> 00:27:20.369
wings. Wow. Yeah. And you were how old? Five.
00:27:21.450 --> 00:27:24.150
OK. I believe in all this stuff only because
00:27:24.150 --> 00:27:26.990
I've had creepy experiences when I was a kid,
00:27:27.250 --> 00:27:30.569
too, with some paranormal things. So that's why
00:27:30.569 --> 00:27:32.789
I get like creeped out and weirded out by these
00:27:32.789 --> 00:27:35.910
stories, because I am a believer. So when Chad's
00:27:35.910 --> 00:27:38.250
saying he like might go on a paranormal investigation
00:27:38.250 --> 00:27:43.490
with you, I'm like... Dude! I love you. Don't
00:27:43.490 --> 00:27:48.190
do it. I need to know, Chad, you lived in Irvine,
00:27:48.230 --> 00:27:51.589
by the way. Yeah, yeah, I should have said that
00:27:51.589 --> 00:27:53.650
when I reached out but yeah, I'm in Irvine. Yes.
00:27:53.750 --> 00:27:55.869
I'm in York right now I'm coming back tomorrow.
00:27:55.869 --> 00:28:08.250
I fly back. Oh very cool I've been Orange County
00:28:08.250 --> 00:28:14.319
since 2005 Yeah. But yeah, we'd love to have
00:28:14.319 --> 00:28:17.099
even both of you on a future investigation with
00:28:17.099 --> 00:28:19.859
us. We'd be so honored to have you guys come
00:28:19.859 --> 00:28:23.779
and experience firsthand what we do on like a
00:28:23.779 --> 00:28:26.880
regular basis. So, you know, whenever you're
00:28:26.880 --> 00:28:30.259
ready, we love to do that with you guys. As long
00:28:30.259 --> 00:28:32.140
as there's a beard, I was gonna say as long as
00:28:32.140 --> 00:28:34.799
there's a priest on standby when a tap of holy
00:28:34.799 --> 00:28:38.480
water, I can maybe do it. Hold on. She's gonna
00:28:38.480 --> 00:28:40.940
turn up the lights in case this might be Can
00:28:40.940 --> 00:28:43.740
you see us now? Yes. Perfect. Yes. I thought
00:28:43.740 --> 00:28:45.539
you were going for like the spooky look and keeping.
00:28:45.920 --> 00:28:50.660
I mean, we're in the dark all the time. That's
00:28:50.660 --> 00:28:53.220
our vibe. We're like, you know, dark princesses.
00:28:53.559 --> 00:28:56.299
Yeah. So that was your first. I'm sorry. Gotcha.
00:28:57.019 --> 00:29:00.240
I was going to say, so I've I've in about two
00:29:00.240 --> 00:29:02.500
years ago, hung out with Aaron from Ghost Adventures.
00:29:03.119 --> 00:29:06.400
Oh, very cool. And by the way, we do want to
00:29:06.400 --> 00:29:10.539
say if we have a moment. Erin, we love and respect
00:29:10.539 --> 00:29:13.539
you and we love you. And sorry what you're doing.
00:29:13.619 --> 00:29:15.099
Yeah, sorry for you're going through and helping.
00:29:15.400 --> 00:29:18.880
Oh, when I heard that, I was like, I met his
00:29:18.880 --> 00:29:21.400
I met his fiance at the time to her Victoria
00:29:21.400 --> 00:29:24.299
Victoria. Oh, yeah, I hung out with her and I
00:29:24.299 --> 00:29:26.420
was like, and she just, I don't know, something
00:29:26.420 --> 00:29:29.019
about her was just kind of off stuff. And I was
00:29:29.019 --> 00:29:31.019
sort of seeing this girl that they were hanging
00:29:31.019 --> 00:29:33.819
out with at Disneyland. They're all Club 33 members.
00:29:33.839 --> 00:29:36.619
So they all go to Disneyland all the time. And
00:29:36.619 --> 00:29:39.700
I was kind of semi -dating this girl that was
00:29:39.700 --> 00:29:42.220
in that group. When you say semi -dating, Chad,
00:29:42.339 --> 00:29:45.960
is that friends with benefits? That's what I
00:29:45.960 --> 00:29:48.160
was working on and being honest about, but she
00:29:48.160 --> 00:29:50.339
wanted more. So whatever. That's a whole other
00:29:50.339 --> 00:29:57.160
story. she she would she was she was started
00:29:57.160 --> 00:29:59.640
to stalk me on Instagram Victoria did and like
00:29:59.640 --> 00:30:01.720
started reporting to the girl I was dating all
00:30:01.720 --> 00:30:04.119
like if I would like somebody's post them girls
00:30:04.119 --> 00:30:06.500
post you would tell tell this girl about it I'm
00:30:06.500 --> 00:30:09.240
like why why is this bitch stalking me on Instagram
00:30:09.240 --> 00:30:13.240
like what the hell's going on so anyway that
00:30:13.240 --> 00:30:15.880
was my experience and then but when I was my
00:30:15.880 --> 00:30:18.019
point was about talking about Aaron is that he
00:30:18.019 --> 00:30:20.480
told me that sometimes the spirits would like
00:30:20.480 --> 00:30:23.910
follow them home oh yeah they have to like cleanse
00:30:23.910 --> 00:30:26.170
and stuff. And I was going to ask you if that's
00:30:26.170 --> 00:30:29.920
happened to you guys. Yeah, quite a bit of time
00:30:29.920 --> 00:30:32.359
actually. And that's one of the things that like
00:30:32.359 --> 00:30:35.259
people don't realize in this world more industry
00:30:35.259 --> 00:30:37.680
is like, you have to take a lot of precautions,
00:30:37.700 --> 00:30:40.980
right? Like, I we don't walk in and being like,
00:30:40.980 --> 00:30:44.019
oh, come attach to us or, you know, come give
00:30:44.019 --> 00:30:46.700
me all your, you know, insights and energy. Yeah,
00:30:46.940 --> 00:30:49.200
like there's a lot of things that we do take
00:30:49.200 --> 00:30:51.559
precautions for. And that's definitely one of
00:30:51.559 --> 00:30:54.640
them. And we will definitely go through after
00:30:54.640 --> 00:30:57.700
especially doing an investigation. and do a cleansing
00:30:57.700 --> 00:31:01.500
and cleansings do start with Saging, Palo Santo.
00:31:01.759 --> 00:31:04.420
I mean, if it's on the next level, we do have
00:31:04.420 --> 00:31:10.099
to break out the holy water every now and then.
00:31:10.319 --> 00:31:12.140
We have our big black tourmaline, that's our
00:31:12.140 --> 00:31:14.440
baby right there. Oh yeah, that's the big daddy
00:31:14.440 --> 00:31:16.299
up here. Should we show it? Yeah. What's it called
00:31:16.299 --> 00:31:21.220
again? Black tourmaline. Okay. Chad, is that
00:31:21.220 --> 00:31:26.470
Cleanser Spirits? So yeah, so this is black tourmaline.
00:31:26.890 --> 00:31:30.049
So, um, we do own a crystal business together,
00:31:30.250 --> 00:31:33.230
which is called Blue Mountain Pringles. And she
00:31:33.230 --> 00:31:35.670
also owns a hair salon as a hairstylist. So we
00:31:35.670 --> 00:31:39.009
do have quote unquote day jobs. Sure. I need
00:31:39.009 --> 00:31:43.490
a haircut. And then like this beautiful black
00:31:43.490 --> 00:31:47.150
tourmaline is one of the biggest pieces for protection,
00:31:47.609 --> 00:31:51.180
especially the paranormal world. But just in
00:31:51.180 --> 00:31:53.319
general, it does protect you from any negative
00:31:53.319 --> 00:31:55.779
energy. We always keep it in front of like when
00:31:55.779 --> 00:31:58.019
we're at the Queen, we leave it in front of our
00:31:58.019 --> 00:32:01.000
door because we don't investigate the room we're
00:32:01.000 --> 00:32:03.359
staying in. So we always keep it right in the
00:32:03.359 --> 00:32:06.220
front. So nothing negative can come into the
00:32:06.220 --> 00:32:08.819
room we're staying in. Okay, when you say the
00:32:08.819 --> 00:32:10.759
Queen, you mean the Queen Mary, right? Oh, yeah.
00:32:11.680 --> 00:32:14.000
Yes. We want to clarify that for the audience.
00:32:14.019 --> 00:32:15.859
I've been to the Queen Mary. I've done a ghost
00:32:15.859 --> 00:32:17.200
tour. We didn't see anything. It was like one
00:32:17.200 --> 00:32:20.759
of the guided Yeah, stupid. Oh, yeah. Well, we
00:32:20.759 --> 00:32:22.779
have it because that's like a very special place
00:32:22.779 --> 00:32:25.460
because it's so close. That's where we did our
00:32:25.460 --> 00:32:28.500
first investigation. Yeah. So and we got the
00:32:28.500 --> 00:32:31.259
tattoo of the Queen's crown. We both have it.
00:32:31.259 --> 00:32:34.160
It's both on our heads. Yeah. Nice. Oh, wow.
00:32:34.420 --> 00:32:37.200
How'd that feel? Right there. How'd that feel
00:32:37.200 --> 00:32:39.779
right there? Oh, fine. I'm like, I could have
00:32:39.779 --> 00:32:43.740
fall asleep. I'm good. Well, we're really tatted
00:32:43.740 --> 00:32:47.079
girls. So we have tats everywhere. So we have
00:32:47.079 --> 00:32:50.140
sleeves and stuff. Heavily sedated at the time.
00:32:50.299 --> 00:32:53.180
I got you. Yeah, absolutely. That's the best
00:32:53.180 --> 00:32:55.940
part. It was actually the day before my birthday.
00:32:56.359 --> 00:33:00.660
Yeah. That was our last year tat though. I'm
00:33:00.660 --> 00:33:04.279
sorry. On your first investigation together of
00:33:04.279 --> 00:33:06.099
the Queen Mary, did you guys experience stuff?
00:33:06.299 --> 00:33:10.079
Did you find? Oh, absolutely. Yeah. The most
00:33:10.079 --> 00:33:14.160
memorable points about the Queen Mary was, um,
00:33:14.220 --> 00:33:15.640
do you want to talk about the can situation?
00:33:15.720 --> 00:33:19.720
Yeah, that was crazy. We were in, it was actually
00:33:19.720 --> 00:33:21.640
the room we were staying in, which was crazy.
00:33:21.720 --> 00:33:24.359
I didn't feel a negative vibe, but spirits are
00:33:24.359 --> 00:33:27.460
everywhere. So we were in the room, we were having
00:33:27.460 --> 00:33:29.640
a few drinks, you know, and we're sitting at
00:33:29.640 --> 00:33:34.039
the table. And this can just slides fast across
00:33:34.039 --> 00:33:36.200
the table. And there was no condensation. There
00:33:36.200 --> 00:33:39.299
was nothing. We barely put it down. It slid across
00:33:39.299 --> 00:33:41.539
the table. And I thought it was going to hit
00:33:41.539 --> 00:33:44.720
me. And I fell back in my chair. And then I hurt
00:33:44.720 --> 00:33:47.480
my side of my body the next day. I had bruises
00:33:47.480 --> 00:33:50.920
all over me because it got me so fast. I was
00:33:50.920 --> 00:33:53.420
like, what the hell? Yeah, I was sitting kind
00:33:53.420 --> 00:33:56.000
of next to it by the table. And I had no idea
00:33:56.000 --> 00:33:58.460
this was happening. We're actually on live, like
00:33:58.460 --> 00:34:01.289
Instagram Live. Yeah. Wow. We were talking to
00:34:01.289 --> 00:34:03.190
people which unfortunately we wish it caught
00:34:03.190 --> 00:34:06.130
it on camera. Yeah, of course Can always everything
00:34:06.130 --> 00:34:12.360
you want on camera that always the way? We were
00:34:12.360 --> 00:34:14.360
just sitting there and then all of a sudden just
00:34:14.360 --> 00:34:16.699
this whole can just slid across like this, you
00:34:16.699 --> 00:34:21.039
know, 35 inch round circular table and it was
00:34:21.039 --> 00:34:23.179
almost half full, right? I would say the soda
00:34:23.179 --> 00:34:26.139
can was like half full and there was no condensation
00:34:26.139 --> 00:34:28.159
on it because she had just over it like within
00:34:28.159 --> 00:34:30.300
like 10 minutes. What's going on? Yeah, because
00:34:30.300 --> 00:34:32.579
at first I was like water condensation, anything.
00:34:32.699 --> 00:34:35.199
I had just placed it down. It literally was a
00:34:35.199 --> 00:34:38.019
can of soda that slid across literally a good
00:34:38.019 --> 00:34:41.769
foot. the table and I saw my own eyes and I was
00:34:41.769 --> 00:34:44.489
so struck by it that I didn't even have words
00:34:44.489 --> 00:34:53.809
and I went back yeah like she was like oh my
00:34:53.809 --> 00:34:56.090
god bitch what the fuck just happened I'm like
00:34:56.409 --> 00:34:58.949
oh my god did that just really happen of course
00:34:58.949 --> 00:35:01.710
we weren't even recording cameras because we
00:35:01.710 --> 00:35:04.489
were live streaming with our fans and just showing
00:35:04.489 --> 00:35:06.329
the room and we had happened to set the camera
00:35:06.329 --> 00:35:10.170
down and we were like facing ourselves with the
00:35:10.170 --> 00:35:12.429
camera on the live stream so we weren't and we'd
00:35:12.429 --> 00:35:14.550
already stopped recording for the night so we
00:35:14.550 --> 00:35:16.230
didn't have the cameras rolling unfortunately
00:35:16.230 --> 00:35:19.590
we didn't catch it which is a bummer yeah so
00:35:19.590 --> 00:35:23.480
when memorable yeah I was gonna say, so when
00:35:23.480 --> 00:35:25.480
something like that happens, do you go right
00:35:25.480 --> 00:35:27.159
back at the spirit and say, Hey, you know, don't
00:35:27.159 --> 00:35:31.199
do that? Or do you? We're trying to figure out
00:35:31.199 --> 00:35:33.340
why they did that. And who did that? That's probably
00:35:33.340 --> 00:35:35.400
what's like the two top reasons is the thing
00:35:35.400 --> 00:35:37.659
like, who did it? And why they did it? Like,
00:35:37.679 --> 00:35:41.820
are you wanting to like, is it like a, hey, have
00:35:41.820 --> 00:35:48.170
a drink? Or is it Right, or is it like get the
00:35:48.170 --> 00:35:50.949
f out vibe. So literally immediately was like,
00:35:50.949 --> 00:35:54.170
oh my god It wasn't negative though. It wasn't
00:35:54.170 --> 00:35:56.849
like we think it's a child spirit because it
00:35:56.849 --> 00:36:00.150
kept playing with the devices like It just felt
00:36:00.150 --> 00:36:03.150
like a little kid messing with devices randomly
00:36:03.150 --> 00:36:06.269
even without asking questions. Mm -hmm. Yeah.
00:36:06.269 --> 00:36:10.500
Yeah The Queen Mary is one of our favorite places
00:36:10.500 --> 00:36:13.219
to investigate. And obviously, Chad, we love
00:36:13.219 --> 00:36:15.760
to take you there. And John, if you're in SoCal,
00:36:16.000 --> 00:36:18.380
love to take you there as well. Yeah. I'll do
00:36:18.380 --> 00:36:20.800
it. I'll do it virtually. So if Chad's with you
00:36:20.800 --> 00:36:22.860
ladies and he wants to, like, bring me on FaceTime,
00:36:23.019 --> 00:36:24.059
like, that's like giving me a little... I'll
00:36:24.059 --> 00:36:26.820
get in virtual mode right on. Yeah. But see,
00:36:27.059 --> 00:36:29.599
now I'm thinking about it. I was just going to
00:36:29.599 --> 00:36:31.820
say, now I'm thinking about it. They might travel
00:36:31.820 --> 00:36:33.860
through the phone and get me. So I don't even
00:36:33.860 --> 00:36:37.170
know if FaceTime is an option here. Okay, I have
00:36:37.170 --> 00:36:40.250
to ask you guys a question. So what's your background
00:36:40.250 --> 00:36:42.969
with spirit scopes? Have you experienced anything
00:36:42.969 --> 00:36:48.070
in your life here on planet young? I have said
00:36:48.070 --> 00:36:51.650
before, I believe in ghosts, but I've never had
00:36:51.650 --> 00:36:54.590
an experience. So I've never had anything weird.
00:36:54.909 --> 00:36:59.909
I've had two. One where it was like a ghost figure
00:36:59.909 --> 00:37:04.099
that was walk that. Walked by my bedroom my bedroom
00:37:04.099 --> 00:37:06.780
was off of the kitchen when I was a kid and this
00:37:06.780 --> 00:37:09.460
ghost figure and like a Almost like a wedding
00:37:09.460 --> 00:37:11.119
dress it seemed to me because it was long and
00:37:11.119 --> 00:37:14.860
had a train well came past my room just glowy
00:37:14.860 --> 00:37:18.460
white figure and Into the sink and through the
00:37:18.460 --> 00:37:21.519
wall and it freaked me out called to my mother
00:37:21.519 --> 00:37:23.539
she came I thought it was her at first it wasn't
00:37:23.539 --> 00:37:26.039
her of course because it went into a wall and
00:37:26.039 --> 00:37:29.380
then Earlier than that like that was like maybe
00:37:29.380 --> 00:37:31.579
seven eight years old somewhere around there
00:37:31.400 --> 00:37:35.239
But earlier than that, like two, my mother used
00:37:35.239 --> 00:37:37.579
to be like a hair stylist or whatever. And she
00:37:37.579 --> 00:37:40.480
had those those mannequin heads where, you know,
00:37:40.519 --> 00:37:43.440
you cut the hair on them. And there was one on
00:37:43.440 --> 00:37:46.380
top of like a little wastebasket and it rolled
00:37:46.380 --> 00:37:49.980
off the wastebasket, landed on its neck and said
00:37:49.980 --> 00:37:53.619
to me, look at me. And it freaked me the fuck
00:37:53.619 --> 00:37:57.900
out. Oh, no. Wanted dolls that they're the creepiest.
00:37:58.380 --> 00:38:02.289
Yeah. Yeah, in my brain like I see it to this
00:38:02.289 --> 00:38:10.530
day like vividly. Yeah Yeah, yeah, I believe
00:38:10.530 --> 00:38:14.329
for sure So you're like I gotta listen I gotta
00:38:14.329 --> 00:38:18.449
fill this see it. Yeah You ladies got some good.
00:38:18.610 --> 00:38:21.130
I'm sorry That's the problem is the Queen Mary
00:38:21.130 --> 00:38:23.250
the most haunted location you've been to or you've
00:38:23.250 --> 00:38:26.500
been to other places that are We have way more
00:38:26.500 --> 00:38:28.659
more places that we do investigate are haunted
00:38:28.659 --> 00:38:31.940
but for the people ask us like with the Queen
00:38:31.940 --> 00:38:33.719
Mary and why it's so haunted and why you're so
00:38:33.719 --> 00:38:36.639
intrigued with it and we spent the last 10 years
00:38:36.639 --> 00:38:40.460
investigating. We have to think of a ship confined
00:38:40.460 --> 00:38:44.000
to this ship has sailed over a million miles
00:38:44.000 --> 00:38:47.440
back and forth from here to Europe and it served
00:38:47.440 --> 00:38:51.639
in World War II called the Grey Goat ship transporting
00:38:51.639 --> 00:38:55.659
troops back and forth from Europe here to America
00:38:55.659 --> 00:38:58.159
and so forth. And you have to think about the
00:38:58.159 --> 00:39:02.079
energy that's involved and the deaths that happened.
00:39:02.239 --> 00:39:04.539
I mean, there's maybe only like less than 100
00:39:04.539 --> 00:39:08.239
deaths recorded on the ship, but the energy that's
00:39:08.239 --> 00:39:11.019
left on the ship is super next level. So when
00:39:11.019 --> 00:39:14.079
you elevate that combined with all the energy
00:39:14.079 --> 00:39:16.719
of everything else that the ship has, you know,
00:39:16.900 --> 00:39:20.039
played a role in over the last, you know, 80
00:39:20.039 --> 00:39:23.519
plus years, it's super fascinating. And like
00:39:23.340 --> 00:39:26.679
Like for me, if I were to pass on and like want
00:39:26.679 --> 00:39:30.480
to haunt a place or hang out in a place, why
00:39:30.480 --> 00:39:32.380
not the Queen Mary? Especially if it played a
00:39:32.380 --> 00:39:34.780
role in your life. It's one out of 10 most haunted
00:39:34.780 --> 00:39:37.619
places in the world. It's the top 10 haunted
00:39:37.619 --> 00:39:42.690
most hotels in the world. But yeah, it's always
00:39:42.690 --> 00:39:45.929
been meaningful for us for the last decade. And
00:39:45.929 --> 00:39:48.769
then obviously one of the most meaningful things
00:39:48.769 --> 00:39:51.889
for me on the ship personally that drives my
00:39:51.889 --> 00:39:56.909
heart. glowing big is the fact that I am Jewish
00:39:56.909 --> 00:40:00.250
and it played a role with World War Two, which
00:40:00.250 --> 00:40:03.989
was with Hitler and his piece of shit that he
00:40:03.989 --> 00:40:08.369
was. And so the declaration of you know, like
00:40:08.369 --> 00:40:10.889
our one of the D -Day document, I should say,
00:40:11.269 --> 00:40:15.829
the D -Day document was signed by Churchill on
00:40:15.829 --> 00:40:21.110
the Queen Mary. So Yeah, so for history buffs,
00:40:21.929 --> 00:40:24.889
there's a lot of history there, you know? You
00:40:24.889 --> 00:40:28.269
said only 100 people died on that ship, and you
00:40:28.269 --> 00:40:31.949
said it was part of World War II, so how many
00:40:31.949 --> 00:40:34.449
lives did that ship take if it was part of World
00:40:34.449 --> 00:40:37.719
War II? just lost on it. Maybe you think about
00:40:37.719 --> 00:40:39.840
it, like, did the person already die before they
00:40:39.840 --> 00:40:41.659
transported back and forth? This ship was used
00:40:41.659 --> 00:40:44.519
for a lot of things during World War Two. So
00:40:44.519 --> 00:40:46.920
there could have been way more people that have
00:40:46.920 --> 00:40:49.159
passed on that were transported back and forth.
00:40:49.179 --> 00:40:51.800
So we don't know because we're even someone that
00:40:51.800 --> 00:40:54.340
had been on it passed away somewhere else, their
00:40:54.340 --> 00:40:56.980
spirit and soul comes back to that ship. Absolutely.
00:40:57.219 --> 00:41:00.179
If they want to or if that's something meaningful
00:41:00.179 --> 00:41:03.199
to them. That's one thing that we research as
00:41:03.199 --> 00:41:06.789
investigators like Why do certain entities go
00:41:06.789 --> 00:41:08.969
where they go? Why do they hang out where they
00:41:08.969 --> 00:41:11.409
hang out, you know? But yeah, with the Queen
00:41:11.409 --> 00:41:14.429
Mary, it's so monumental for so many reasons.
00:41:14.630 --> 00:41:17.349
Like the last time we were there, which was December.
00:41:17.650 --> 00:41:19.969
I was there in February. Oh, yeah. February.
00:41:20.309 --> 00:41:22.849
I see. We're there all the time. Well, it was
00:41:22.849 --> 00:41:27.309
December. Oh, Michael. Yeah. So well, in December
00:41:27.309 --> 00:41:31.579
of last year. I seen this green lip green or
00:41:31.579 --> 00:41:35.440
green grim grim reaper reaper walk through the
00:41:35.440 --> 00:41:39.699
wall and crazy like I wish we got in camera she
00:41:39.699 --> 00:41:43.460
was recording but not like a weird angle and
00:41:43.460 --> 00:41:46.019
when I said something the camera just looked
00:41:46.019 --> 00:41:49.099
down like she was like what you know so it sucks
00:41:49.099 --> 00:41:54.240
when you don't get that good evidence and I Google
00:41:54.240 --> 00:42:02.739
glasses they'll get everything you see We just
00:42:02.739 --> 00:42:07.059
barely started our social media for the paranormal
00:42:07.059 --> 00:42:10.920
about a year and a half ago We wild to really
00:42:10.920 --> 00:42:14.719
want to do it because it was more personal You
00:42:14.719 --> 00:42:18.360
know what we like to do together, but let's get
00:42:18.360 --> 00:42:20.480
it out there. Let's open it up on a platform
00:42:20.480 --> 00:42:24.480
So yeah, we did it for Instagram. Yeah, we've
00:42:24.480 --> 00:42:28.619
been for the last almost decade of what our investigations,
00:42:28.619 --> 00:42:31.719
you know, because yeah, because honestly, like
00:42:31.719 --> 00:42:34.599
you get a lot of criticisms and things a lot
00:42:34.599 --> 00:42:37.340
of questions and so forth. And to be honest,
00:42:37.340 --> 00:42:39.559
we just did it for own personal research. You
00:42:39.559 --> 00:42:41.639
know, we've already been intrigued since we were
00:42:41.639 --> 00:42:44.500
children had our own experiences. So, you know,
00:42:44.579 --> 00:42:46.659
putting yourself out there, you open yourself
00:42:46.659 --> 00:42:51.570
out for so many things like, you know, so negative
00:42:51.570 --> 00:42:55.750
positive neutral really bad and even with people
00:42:55.750 --> 00:42:58.789
talking crap about you or they're really intrigued
00:42:58.789 --> 00:43:01.349
but they've never experienced something or they
00:43:01.349 --> 00:43:03.210
have experienced something or like oh my god
00:43:03.210 --> 00:43:05.289
i want to talk to you about this so we get a
00:43:05.289 --> 00:43:07.909
lot of hate and love on both sides too whether
00:43:07.909 --> 00:43:12.230
it's spirits or with people yeah well that's
00:43:12.230 --> 00:43:14.760
the thing in life No matter what you do, you
00:43:14.760 --> 00:43:16.739
can't please everybody. There's always haters
00:43:16.739 --> 00:43:19.880
and lovers. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Speak for yourself.
00:43:20.059 --> 00:43:26.320
I am loved by all and please everyone. Have you
00:43:26.320 --> 00:43:30.480
guys done any investigations outside of Southern
00:43:30.480 --> 00:43:33.840
California? Yeah, absolutely. So one of our big
00:43:33.840 --> 00:43:36.280
investigations was last summer we did Jerome,
00:43:36.280 --> 00:43:40.099
Arizona, which is right outside of Sedona, which
00:43:40.099 --> 00:43:43.539
is like our place like our second home we have
00:43:43.539 --> 00:43:46.280
a property we're buying out there, but we love
00:43:46.280 --> 00:43:48.860
that place is so sacred the more Texas are you
00:43:48.860 --> 00:43:55.000
ladies dating or friends. Well. The air should
00:43:55.000 --> 00:44:01.360
be clear the air. Yeah, please. We're in a relationship.
00:44:02.340 --> 00:44:06.380
We're just best. Well, when you say things like
00:44:06.380 --> 00:44:14.329
we're buying a house. I love guys. I love females.
00:44:14.630 --> 00:44:16.710
I've been in almost actually like relationships
00:44:16.710 --> 00:44:19.789
with another dude back in the past, but not this
00:44:19.789 --> 00:44:24.289
one. This is my sister. So yeah, you guys aren't
00:44:24.289 --> 00:44:26.849
the only ones because we're so close and like
00:44:27.039 --> 00:44:30.480
We just I still yeah, I feel like 95 percent
00:44:30.480 --> 00:44:33.380
of people always think we're just lesbians I
00:44:33.380 --> 00:44:35.880
promise you there was no like lesbian vibe or
00:44:35.880 --> 00:44:37.280
anything. It was just you said you guys were
00:44:37.280 --> 00:44:39.239
buying a house together I'm like, okay, did I
00:44:39.239 --> 00:44:51.280
miss But it's so funny because we're clearing
00:44:51.280 --> 00:44:55.000
the air because everybody will be like, we want
00:44:55.000 --> 00:44:57.239
to hit on you, but not quite sure if you're straight.
00:44:59.159 --> 00:45:01.500
Let's that's how I found you guys. I saw this
00:45:01.500 --> 00:45:04.559
post for that spooky Airbnb. I think it's in
00:45:04.559 --> 00:45:07.199
Anaheim somewhere. You guys were attached to
00:45:07.199 --> 00:45:09.019
that. And that's how I found I was like, Oh,
00:45:09.019 --> 00:45:10.980
who are these girls? Oh, check this out. They're
00:45:10.980 --> 00:45:13.079
ghost investigators. But that house looks pretty
00:45:13.079 --> 00:45:15.840
cool. That Airbnb looks amazing. It's like, yeah.
00:45:16.780 --> 00:45:19.739
Awesome. Thanks, Jeff, for letting us stay there.
00:45:19.800 --> 00:45:23.059
Jeff's awesome. He's a super creative mind. And
00:45:23.059 --> 00:45:24.860
yeah, that place is so good. Because like, we're
00:45:24.860 --> 00:45:27.519
going back actually, probably this summer to
00:45:27.519 --> 00:45:29.719
investigate for a couple days because we didn't
00:45:29.719 --> 00:45:32.719
even know at the time they stayed there that
00:45:32.719 --> 00:45:35.420
there was people bringing these like haunted
00:45:35.420 --> 00:45:37.599
dolls. Possessed haunted dolls. Possessed haunted
00:45:37.599 --> 00:45:40.119
dolls around the country. Ouija boards randomly.
00:45:40.400 --> 00:45:43.059
There was two ouija boards and he said that guests
00:45:43.059 --> 00:45:45.820
bring weird things to this place. Interesting.
00:45:46.299 --> 00:45:50.159
Yeah. So John, there's this Airbnb in Anaheim
00:45:50.159 --> 00:45:52.980
that's haunted mansion themed. It's really cool.
00:45:53.320 --> 00:45:55.940
Yeah. And so the girls have stayed there. And
00:45:55.940 --> 00:45:57.659
now they're telling us that the owner said that
00:45:57.659 --> 00:45:59.139
people were bringing weird stuff through haunted
00:45:59.139 --> 00:46:02.300
dolls. Oh, it was crazy. Yeah, we didn't even
00:46:02.300 --> 00:46:04.760
know. So when we were leaving the next day, and
00:46:04.760 --> 00:46:07.079
I was messaging Jeff, the owner, we actually
00:46:07.079 --> 00:46:08.860
asked if we could stay a little extra that one
00:46:08.860 --> 00:46:11.480
day because the fires were going on, we didn't
00:46:11.480 --> 00:46:14.199
have power at the house. So Um, and I was like,
00:46:14.380 --> 00:46:15.940
Oh, if you don't mind if we can stay for extra
00:46:15.940 --> 00:46:17.340
hours. He was like, Yeah, for sure. He's like,
00:46:17.380 --> 00:46:19.659
Oh, by the way, did you girls run into the dolls?
00:46:19.840 --> 00:46:24.659
I'm all in the room that I was the most attractive.
00:46:25.239 --> 00:46:28.860
But you were the scared. Yeah, yeah. And he's
00:46:28.860 --> 00:46:30.760
like, Oh, they're all in the raven room in the
00:46:30.760 --> 00:46:32.460
drawer. So I'm thinking to myself, why don't
00:46:32.460 --> 00:46:35.500
go through people's drawers. And even when I
00:46:35.500 --> 00:46:39.889
put my clothes in the suitcase. Yeah. But yeah,
00:46:39.969 --> 00:46:41.969
when we start looking and covering all these
00:46:41.969 --> 00:46:44.809
spooky dolls. We do have I'll have to repost
00:46:44.809 --> 00:46:48.210
on Instagram, but we have a video of us finding
00:46:48.210 --> 00:46:51.010
them. Oh, my God. It was like in the moment.
00:46:51.010 --> 00:46:54.469
It was so freaky and creepy all the same time.
00:46:54.989 --> 00:46:58.090
But yeah, crazy. So you ladies do get scared
00:46:58.090 --> 00:47:02.809
then and you're still all the time. Wow. I saw
00:47:02.809 --> 00:47:04.949
the adrenaline rush. That's the thing. I was
00:47:04.949 --> 00:47:07.039
gonna say you like being scared. Yeah. Nice.
00:47:07.519 --> 00:47:09.639
Right. But what happens when that adrenaline
00:47:09.639 --> 00:47:13.900
rush turns into reality and this spirit is shoving
00:47:13.900 --> 00:47:17.639
a knife into your side or something? People more
00:47:17.639 --> 00:47:21.519
than spirit. Yeah. I agree with that, actually.
00:47:22.500 --> 00:47:24.940
I agree with that. People more than spirit you
00:47:24.940 --> 00:47:27.519
have to worry about. Yeah, sure. But if a spirit
00:47:27.519 --> 00:47:29.780
came out with a knife, I'm sure it wouldn't stab
00:47:29.780 --> 00:47:33.280
me. OK. Yeah, because we were talking earlier
00:47:33.280 --> 00:47:36.380
about a movie I saw as a kid. And now that you
00:47:36.380 --> 00:47:38.659
said Ouija board, I think that was the name of
00:47:38.659 --> 00:47:40.960
it. It was like Ouija was the name of it. And
00:47:40.960 --> 00:47:44.400
they were like making objects move and like like
00:47:44.400 --> 00:47:46.420
stabbing people like spirits were like stabbing
00:47:46.420 --> 00:47:48.500
people or something. I think that was the movie.
00:47:48.719 --> 00:47:52.960
That's a movie job. It is right. Well, OK. I
00:47:52.960 --> 00:47:56.039
think if someone if they got possessed by a demon
00:47:56.039 --> 00:47:59.400
and the person and stabbed them, then I'm sure
00:47:59.400 --> 00:48:04.070
that could happen. level. So, so here, so yeah,
00:48:04.130 --> 00:48:06.550
this is good. So you don't believe that the spirit
00:48:06.550 --> 00:48:10.289
world could interact like that negative with
00:48:10.289 --> 00:48:13.090
the physical world to like, maybe commit a crime
00:48:13.090 --> 00:48:15.329
like that or something? No, absolutely. I agree.
00:48:15.590 --> 00:48:17.730
They can. I feel like, you know, when there's
00:48:17.730 --> 00:48:20.250
something dark that might be able to possess
00:48:20.250 --> 00:48:23.590
a human being and take over their body. Absolutely.
00:48:23.750 --> 00:48:27.659
I mean, I mean, there's so many episodes and
00:48:27.659 --> 00:48:31.519
documentaries on the fact that could that actually
00:48:31.519 --> 00:48:34.380
take over someone's mentality? In fact, your
00:48:34.380 --> 00:48:37.619
mood just for a moment, you know, like are they
00:48:37.619 --> 00:48:40.500
making decisions based on somebody else controlling
00:48:40.500 --> 00:48:44.760
their mood or emotions, you know? So do you girls
00:48:44.760 --> 00:48:47.239
think do you girls think that people are in jail
00:48:47.239 --> 00:48:50.199
for committing crimes that a spirit made them
00:48:50.199 --> 00:48:52.980
commit? Absolutely. I 100 % agree with that.
00:48:53.039 --> 00:48:56.019
They're in the psych ward or something. But they're
00:48:56.019 --> 00:48:58.820
also a natural human being and they also make
00:48:58.820 --> 00:49:01.199
those decisions together. And they're open to
00:49:01.199 --> 00:49:04.099
probably the evil, the negative. So it just comes
00:49:04.099 --> 00:49:07.559
into them and consumes them faster. Yeah. Have
00:49:07.559 --> 00:49:09.920
some screws loose for it to affect them. Yeah.
00:49:10.199 --> 00:49:13.599
I said that with like people who claim to like
00:49:13.599 --> 00:49:16.300
take psychedelics or smoke a lot of weed and
00:49:16.300 --> 00:49:18.159
stab somebody. Like they said they... I'm like,
00:49:18.219 --> 00:49:21.320
no, that was in you and it came out of you when
00:49:21.320 --> 00:49:23.300
you were on that or something, but that's in
00:49:23.300 --> 00:49:26.780
you. Yeah, it's in you already, I believe. Right.
00:49:26.880 --> 00:49:29.599
So they're inhabiting basically people who almost
00:49:29.599 --> 00:49:33.699
want that type of energy. Oh, yeah. Because they
00:49:33.699 --> 00:49:36.019
know that they're dark and it's easier to make
00:49:36.019 --> 00:49:39.579
it more dark inside them. Gotcha. All right.
00:49:39.579 --> 00:49:41.699
So now I'm a little less scared because I know
00:49:41.699 --> 00:49:44.500
Chad's not dark. I know I'm not dark. So maybe
00:49:44.500 --> 00:49:46.940
they can't get inside and scare me as much as
00:49:46.940 --> 00:49:50.760
I once believed. That's cool. Yeah. You can go
00:49:50.760 --> 00:49:54.059
on the investigation. Yeah. Don't be scared.
00:49:54.440 --> 00:49:56.900
OK, well, let me ask you this. Ladies who are
00:49:56.900 --> 00:50:00.119
so strong and tough here, would you ever do one
00:50:00.119 --> 00:50:03.940
of these on your own? No, no. Michelle or Christine
00:50:03.940 --> 00:50:08.880
together, but like always away from each other.
00:50:08.889 --> 00:50:12.530
Yeah. Yeah. So that is scary. Yeah. Okay. So
00:50:12.530 --> 00:50:14.409
you do separate and like go to different parts
00:50:14.409 --> 00:50:16.969
of the ship or the house or whatever. Absolutely.
00:50:17.389 --> 00:50:19.949
Yeah, we do our individual like moments of investigation.
00:50:21.340 --> 00:50:23.280
This next couple months we have a lot of stuff
00:50:23.280 --> 00:50:25.880
that we're filming that we're busy with but month
00:50:25.880 --> 00:50:28.119
of may is super busy. We're actually filming
00:50:28.119 --> 00:50:31.079
um, one of the biggest two of the biggest places
00:50:31.079 --> 00:50:34.780
in the country is uh, indiana state sanatorium
00:50:34.780 --> 00:50:38.679
Which is in rockville indiana and this place
00:50:38.679 --> 00:50:42.780
is like 200 acres. Oh, you're gay And this place
00:50:42.780 --> 00:50:46.719
is what was that? Oh, you're gay. I don't know
00:50:46.719 --> 00:50:50.900
so many things you're gay Hi I don't know where
00:50:50.900 --> 00:50:56.840
that came from. I know. I clarified that earlier.
00:50:58.000 --> 00:51:01.179
That was how Howard Stern breaks into our channel
00:51:01.179 --> 00:51:02.840
every now and again and just says the Miranda.
00:51:04.219 --> 00:51:08.420
So the Indiana sanatorium would sound that sounds
00:51:08.420 --> 00:51:12.889
bring us back to hell. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, that
00:51:12.889 --> 00:51:15.909
place is going to be nuts. So we're filming there.
00:51:16.050 --> 00:51:18.469
We're doing two week road trips. So we didn't
00:51:18.469 --> 00:51:20.869
want to fly because everything's been going on.
00:51:20.969 --> 00:51:22.289
Let's let me talk about that. That's a whole
00:51:22.289 --> 00:51:24.889
nother subject with the airplane. Yeah, I'm flying
00:51:24.889 --> 00:51:28.909
tomorrow. You're good. Or crash. Oh, hell no.
00:51:29.170 --> 00:51:31.309
I know. We kept saying that for a week. I know.
00:51:31.570 --> 00:51:34.010
One more. Just one more. Another one in another
00:51:34.010 --> 00:51:36.579
one. We're like, OK, we done. We're driving.
00:51:37.400 --> 00:51:40.320
Have you ladies with all your paranormal investigation,
00:51:40.420 --> 00:51:42.019
and I want to get into some of the cool equipment
00:51:42.019 --> 00:51:43.679
you have because you were talking to Frank Sinatra.
00:51:44.079 --> 00:51:49.840
I want to talk gear too, yeah. But before we
00:51:49.840 --> 00:51:54.860
get there, have you gotten any insight into,
00:51:54.920 --> 00:51:56.420
since you're speaking to spirits and all this
00:51:56.420 --> 00:51:59.920
stuff now, like what the afterlife is, is God
00:51:59.920 --> 00:52:03.010
real? Is there a heaven? Is there a hell? religious
00:52:03.010 --> 00:52:04.610
stuff like that? Answers to the question. I'm
00:52:04.610 --> 00:52:07.329
going to say yes, yes, and yes. I feel like,
00:52:07.329 --> 00:52:09.889
you know, everyone has their own religious beliefs
00:52:09.889 --> 00:52:12.889
and so forth. But for us, like, that's one thing,
00:52:12.909 --> 00:52:15.289
like, people always say, like, oh, because of
00:52:15.289 --> 00:52:18.829
what we do, we don't believe in God or we don't
00:52:18.829 --> 00:52:21.010
believe in this or that. And that's one thing
00:52:21.010 --> 00:52:23.750
we want to clarify is, you know, everybody has
00:52:23.750 --> 00:52:26.289
their own beliefs. But yeah, we do have a God
00:52:26.289 --> 00:52:28.630
we believe in. Everyone believes in a different
00:52:28.630 --> 00:52:31.989
God or their God or their own God. Yeah. religious
00:52:31.989 --> 00:52:34.510
could be like a whole spectrum of everything.
00:52:34.789 --> 00:52:37.010
Yeah, and untouchy subject just in general. But
00:52:37.010 --> 00:52:39.769
um, yeah, I think, you know, we love what we
00:52:39.769 --> 00:52:42.909
do and to touch bases on it. People that are
00:52:42.909 --> 00:52:45.130
really religious think like it's evil. Like we
00:52:45.130 --> 00:52:47.510
could be evil people and stuff. So that's why
00:52:47.510 --> 00:52:52.809
it took us a while to do Instagram. Yeah, we
00:52:52.809 --> 00:52:55.500
didn't really want to get it out there. Well,
00:52:55.519 --> 00:52:57.559
how wacky are those religious people? I mean,
00:52:57.559 --> 00:53:00.019
you can't be gay in their world. Like they just
00:53:00.019 --> 00:53:03.780
don't believe in proper shit. Yeah. Yeah. Have
00:53:03.780 --> 00:53:05.840
you guys there's this book called The Untethered
00:53:05.840 --> 00:53:09.039
Soul that I read and it's a psychologist and
00:53:09.039 --> 00:53:11.239
he's the author of the book as well. It's a great
00:53:11.239 --> 00:53:12.559
book. You got your girls should probably read
00:53:12.559 --> 00:53:16.099
it. And he he he hypnotizes them and regresses
00:53:16.099 --> 00:53:18.840
the people back to their soul state, back to
00:53:18.840 --> 00:53:22.840
the source. Oh, yeah. Everyone. Yeah, if you
00:53:22.840 --> 00:53:26.340
believe in souls and heaven, if you want to call
00:53:26.340 --> 00:53:28.960
it that, he regresses them back to their soul
00:53:28.960 --> 00:53:31.820
state, back to heaven. And basically, throughout
00:53:31.820 --> 00:53:33.739
the book, he does like six different subjects,
00:53:34.039 --> 00:53:37.260
six different people. And they all kind of tell
00:53:37.260 --> 00:53:40.619
the similar story of they're just this energy.
00:53:41.079 --> 00:53:43.300
And the energies have different colors based
00:53:43.300 --> 00:53:47.000
on their levels of where they are in the the
00:53:47.000 --> 00:53:49.780
energy in the whole field there. But they they
00:53:49.780 --> 00:53:51.539
they basically when they're when they're ready
00:53:51.539 --> 00:53:53.699
to come back to earth they choose their mother
00:53:53.699 --> 00:53:58.199
and then they come back to the mother and this
00:53:58.199 --> 00:54:01.920
is how people have like soul like soul like soulmates
00:54:01.920 --> 00:54:05.480
because they've been interacting many, many times
00:54:05.480 --> 00:54:07.039
through different lives. And they can be different.
00:54:07.099 --> 00:54:09.079
You can be different gender, different sexes.
00:54:09.139 --> 00:54:11.860
Yeah, I believe that. And then you're like, well,
00:54:11.860 --> 00:54:13.420
why would you, if you're choosing the mother,
00:54:13.480 --> 00:54:16.079
why would you choose a mother of a slave in Iraq
00:54:16.079 --> 00:54:19.119
or whatever, and then be murdered? Because they're
00:54:19.119 --> 00:54:20.420
learning different lessons in different lifetimes.
00:54:20.420 --> 00:54:21.920
Yeah, you have to learn the different lessons.
00:54:21.920 --> 00:54:24.139
So it's a great book. It would probably be cool
00:54:24.139 --> 00:54:27.099
for you girls to read it. I loved it. It kind
00:54:27.099 --> 00:54:31.639
of, it ties in religion, karma, not evolution.
00:54:34.309 --> 00:54:37.369
Reincarnation and it's it's really cool. Yeah.
00:54:37.369 --> 00:54:40.030
Cool book. Yeah, I'll have to look it up. Yeah,
00:54:40.030 --> 00:54:42.670
definitely. It's always like we always like to
00:54:42.670 --> 00:54:45.670
do research and anybody that has any suggestions
00:54:45.670 --> 00:54:48.329
on information on information, research, whatever,
00:54:48.429 --> 00:54:50.389
like more the merrier because we're all about
00:54:50.389 --> 00:54:52.190
learning, right? We don't have all the answers.
00:54:52.570 --> 00:54:54.809
We're investigating. We're learning, you know,
00:54:54.809 --> 00:54:57.869
as we go. There's always something new we run
00:54:57.869 --> 00:55:01.150
into. Absolutely. Before you came on the show,
00:55:01.150 --> 00:55:04.190
we were talking. Where I am, I'm in York, Pennsylvania,
00:55:04.789 --> 00:55:07.210
and I grew up, it's like I grew up here, obviously,
00:55:07.369 --> 00:55:09.829
and it's 45 minutes from Gettysburg. And so I've
00:55:09.829 --> 00:55:12.210
been to Gettysburg many times. And as you know,
00:55:12.650 --> 00:55:15.210
it is a very haunted place. Would you guys ever
00:55:15.210 --> 00:55:17.989
consider coming to Gettysburg? We are. We're
00:55:17.989 --> 00:55:23.260
going to Pennsylvania. We are. Oh, really? out
00:55:23.260 --> 00:55:25.179
there when we're there but you're gonna be here
00:55:25.179 --> 00:55:26.860
i'm gonna be here the first week of may i'm coming
00:55:26.860 --> 00:55:31.119
back the middle most middle week of may it could
00:55:31.119 --> 00:55:36.920
have got us both chad yeah like four or five
00:55:36.920 --> 00:55:42.039
days yeah uh spring city spring city spring city
00:55:42.039 --> 00:55:45.619
where's what's that near i have no idea i know
00:55:45.619 --> 00:55:48.489
it's only like an hour east of philly We're going
00:55:48.489 --> 00:55:51.170
to the paracon out there. Pennsylvania. I'm an
00:55:51.170 --> 00:55:53.510
hour. I'm an hour and a half east of Philly or
00:55:53.510 --> 00:55:57.070
west of Philly. You're west of Philly or east
00:55:57.070 --> 00:56:00.710
of Philly. It's Philly is New Jersey. I'm looking
00:56:00.710 --> 00:56:03.250
up Spring City right now. I think it's either
00:56:03.250 --> 00:56:06.449
Spring City or Spring Hill. I fucking. Oh, is
00:56:06.449 --> 00:56:10.409
it? Is it Turkey Hill? Because it's a good ice
00:56:10.409 --> 00:56:15.469
cream. But Pennsylvania is huge. You could literally,
00:56:15.469 --> 00:56:18.380
you know, fucking never make it through that
00:56:18.380 --> 00:56:20.619
state by foot if you tried to walk through it.
00:56:22.539 --> 00:56:26.079
That's a hike. Spring Hill, Pennsylvania. That's
00:56:26.079 --> 00:56:29.699
way out west towards Pittsburgh. Yeah, Chad,
00:56:29.699 --> 00:56:32.179
I'm sure we're way closer here in SoCal than
00:56:32.179 --> 00:56:35.199
we'll ever be seeing you in Pennsylvania. Yeah.
00:56:36.569 --> 00:56:38.409
Oh, yeah. I'm just trying to figure out where
00:56:38.409 --> 00:56:40.010
you're going in Pennsylvania when you come here.
00:56:40.170 --> 00:56:42.469
Oh, yeah, absolutely. But for investigation purposes,
00:56:42.670 --> 00:56:44.650
we'll definitely hang out here in SoCal. Oh,
00:56:44.710 --> 00:56:46.070
absolutely. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I want to do
00:56:46.070 --> 00:56:48.829
that for sure. I was just curious if you've been
00:56:48.829 --> 00:56:50.289
to Gettysburg, if you're going to Gettysburg,
00:56:50.309 --> 00:56:51.670
and then I was trying to figure out where you're
00:56:51.670 --> 00:56:52.630
coming from. Oh, yeah, no, we're absolutely going
00:56:52.630 --> 00:56:54.030
to answer your question. You're right. Sorry.
00:56:54.389 --> 00:56:56.989
Yeah, we're doing Gettysburg after we finish
00:56:56.989 --> 00:56:59.750
filming at Pennhurst. I'm surprised you said
00:56:59.750 --> 00:57:03.050
you've been to Gettysburg. We used to take school
00:57:03.050 --> 00:57:05.250
field trips there. I've been there probably 20,
00:57:05.269 --> 00:57:08.590
25 times. You never had like a paranormal experience.
00:57:09.349 --> 00:57:11.349
Everywhere on the streets there was a ghost.
00:57:11.630 --> 00:57:15.309
I know. When we talked about that at first, about
00:57:15.309 --> 00:57:17.469
me never having the experience, I swear to God,
00:57:17.869 --> 00:57:19.989
like, I don't know. I've been to places that
00:57:19.989 --> 00:57:21.909
are haunted. I know they're haunted. I've never
00:57:21.909 --> 00:57:24.329
seen or heard anything. Some there's a point
00:57:24.329 --> 00:57:27.250
in my life where I'm like, do I like repel ghosts
00:57:27.250 --> 00:57:29.750
and like that kind of experiences? Because I
00:57:29.750 --> 00:57:32.150
definitely been in haunted places and not seen
00:57:32.150 --> 00:57:34.809
or heard jack shit. So maybe they're scared.
00:57:35.150 --> 00:57:38.250
I believe it. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I'm
00:57:38.250 --> 00:57:40.710
like a repulsor. You might not want to have me
00:57:40.710 --> 00:57:42.070
on the thing. You won't see anything. They'll
00:57:42.070 --> 00:57:43.710
be like, nope, we don't like that guy. We're
00:57:43.710 --> 00:57:47.570
out. Well, no repelled or like a closed mine
00:57:47.570 --> 00:57:50.599
like He says like he believes, but he's never
00:57:50.599 --> 00:57:53.500
seen like it. It seems like maybe there's a disconnect
00:57:53.500 --> 00:57:56.059
there. And if you're saying like, are you saying
00:57:56.059 --> 00:57:58.000
it's my problem? Well, because they're saying
00:57:58.000 --> 00:58:00.500
hold on here because they're saying like they
00:58:00.500 --> 00:58:02.980
can only get into bad people and make them do
00:58:02.980 --> 00:58:05.280
bad things if they're open to it. Maybe you're
00:58:05.280 --> 00:58:08.079
not open into seeing them or being part of it
00:58:08.079 --> 00:58:10.639
like you think you are, but you're very close
00:58:10.639 --> 00:58:15.639
minded, Chad. Just to let you know, I'm not a
00:58:15.639 --> 00:58:18.579
skeptic. I love it. I like I want to see one.
00:58:19.059 --> 00:58:20.780
You might want to believe too much. And they're
00:58:20.780 --> 00:58:22.420
like, fuck this guy. We're not going to even
00:58:22.420 --> 00:58:25.719
show him. Yeah, one of the biggest things is
00:58:25.719 --> 00:58:27.500
you have to have like a we've noticed people
00:58:27.500 --> 00:58:30.760
that are more closed off versus open minded makes
00:58:30.760 --> 00:58:33.380
a big difference when it comes to investigating.
00:58:33.699 --> 00:58:36.500
And, you know, like we have brought people with
00:58:36.500 --> 00:58:39.280
us to investigate and they ruin our investigation.
00:58:39.300 --> 00:58:42.639
Yeah, like they're just so close. don't want
00:58:42.639 --> 00:58:46.340
why isn't anything happening yeah like we literally
00:58:46.340 --> 00:58:49.019
people that are just super hoseminded and they're
00:58:49.019 --> 00:58:51.739
just not open minded and like we're like okay
00:58:51.739 --> 00:58:53.440
well nothing's really happening and because you're
00:58:53.440 --> 00:58:56.099
not opening your own mind to be able to accept
00:58:56.099 --> 00:58:59.199
those interactions and so forth you know you're
00:58:59.199 --> 00:59:02.539
already a skepticism person but or single person
00:59:02.539 --> 00:59:04.500
but like the thing is is that you just need to
00:59:04.500 --> 00:59:07.860
just be open minded when it comes to learning
00:59:07.860 --> 00:59:10.719
about the other side and not so closed off and
00:59:10.719 --> 00:59:12.780
we feel like some of the times when we do film
00:59:12.780 --> 00:59:15.269
with people or investigate with people that are
00:59:15.269 --> 00:59:17.929
closed minded, like a lot of stuff doesn't actually
00:59:17.929 --> 00:59:20.829
happen. And like, me and her together, we have
00:59:20.829 --> 00:59:23.510
so much activity and things that happen. Like
00:59:23.510 --> 00:59:25.369
we kind of hear a court hall. There's so much
00:59:25.369 --> 00:59:28.030
stuff happening. Well, I'm definitely open minded.
00:59:28.150 --> 00:59:30.389
I want to see something or experience something.
00:59:30.789 --> 00:59:34.349
We've had a crazy experience too was in Joshua
00:59:34.349 --> 00:59:38.369
tree. We love Joshua tree and it was Joshua tree
00:59:38.369 --> 00:59:42.090
in motel and we had a rock thrown at us. No one
00:59:42.090 --> 00:59:46.659
was around. Dark and demonic at that place. We've
00:59:46.659 --> 00:59:50.380
seen dark shadows apparitions. It was scary.
00:59:50.719 --> 00:59:54.280
Yeah, I was shortly after Zach and Aaron film
00:59:54.280 --> 00:59:56.880
from Ghost Adventures. We went up there because
00:59:56.880 --> 00:59:58.719
we weren't able to meet them up there. So we
00:59:58.719 --> 01:00:01.739
filmed like a few months later and we were up
01:00:01.739 --> 01:00:04.579
there and literally we were in like the courtyard
01:00:04.579 --> 01:00:06.559
area and there was no one there. We had the whole
01:00:06.559 --> 01:00:08.739
place to ourselves and we were like four in the
01:00:08.739 --> 01:00:10.820
afternoon, still kind of daylight. We were just
01:00:10.820 --> 01:00:13.699
taking pictures. Yeah, just like video and pictures
01:00:13.699 --> 01:00:15.920
just getting like settled in and we're just standing
01:00:15.920 --> 01:00:18.440
there. We're about to review a couple of videos
01:00:18.440 --> 01:00:20.440
and photos that we just took and all this. sudden
01:00:20.440 --> 01:00:24.380
you hear and see this rock just thrown at my
01:00:24.380 --> 01:00:27.980
home right into her phone bounce hit me yeah
01:00:28.219 --> 01:00:30.679
And I was I was like, what the heck? And I thought
01:00:30.679 --> 01:00:33.579
something fell from the tree. Yeah, we just know
01:00:33.579 --> 01:00:37.460
that rock was thrown at us. And yeah, in it coming.
01:00:37.639 --> 01:00:39.420
Yeah, we looked at the tree. So I was like, I'm
01:00:39.420 --> 01:00:41.960
trying to like debunk this like reasonable explanation.
01:00:41.960 --> 01:00:44.739
Right? I'm like, what could possibly just like
01:00:44.739 --> 01:00:46.719
the tree didn't have leaves. It was nothing.
01:00:46.860 --> 01:00:51.960
It was so dry. There was nothing. Looking all
01:00:51.960 --> 01:00:55.360
around. We had nobody but her and me. Tell them
01:00:55.360 --> 01:00:58.880
what happened earlier when I had this is the
01:00:58.880 --> 01:01:01.340
craziest coincidence of it all so when we were
01:01:01.340 --> 01:01:03.719
first getting there and we're unloading all our
01:01:03.719 --> 01:01:06.059
gear and stuff we're bringing into gran parsons
01:01:06.059 --> 01:01:08.360
room he's the most notable person that passed
01:01:08.360 --> 01:01:11.000
away and remember eight there he was i don't
01:01:11.000 --> 01:01:13.400
know if you know him chad but he was a artist
01:01:13.400 --> 01:01:17.320
musically gran was his name again gran parsons
01:01:17.320 --> 01:01:21.440
oh yeah i know he is yes yeah so he passed away
01:01:21.440 --> 01:01:24.679
and remember eight there of an overdose and so
01:01:24.679 --> 01:01:27.739
we're always like Musically connected like we
01:01:27.739 --> 01:01:30.500
are and his room was not negative at all. Yeah,
01:01:30.519 --> 01:01:32.579
I wasn't he was a good Yeah, but he just passed
01:01:32.579 --> 01:01:36.159
away there and unfortunately, um, you know shit
01:01:36.159 --> 01:01:38.860
happens, you know, um, but we're just standing
01:01:38.860 --> 01:01:41.579
there in this middle of the area But to go back
01:01:41.579 --> 01:01:44.710
to the very original story for the rock Portion
01:01:44.710 --> 01:01:46.650
of it. Yeah, we're unloading the gear bringing
01:01:46.650 --> 01:01:49.710
it back and forth from his room to our vehicles
01:01:49.710 --> 01:01:53.489
and There's just like a rock on the sidewalk
01:01:53.489 --> 01:01:56.210
and she just kicked it like back. It was in the
01:01:56.210 --> 01:01:59.010
way So I was just like a tiny little rock like
01:01:59.010 --> 01:02:01.130
this big and she just kicked it like back into
01:02:01.130 --> 01:02:04.230
like the Garden area where it should be, you
01:02:04.230 --> 01:02:06.050
know where you have like rocks and flowers or
01:02:06.050 --> 01:02:08.429
whatever and we didn't think about the time she's
01:02:08.429 --> 01:02:10.949
kicked it like an hour later is when we're standing
01:02:10.949 --> 01:02:14.099
the atrium area of the place and then the whole
01:02:14.099 --> 01:02:17.400
rock was full and it came from the sky bro and
01:02:17.400 --> 01:02:21.820
I was like creepy yeah I was like did we piss
01:02:21.820 --> 01:02:24.480
him off because you put you kicked the rock back
01:02:24.480 --> 01:02:26.780
into the garden was it throwing it was weird
01:02:26.780 --> 01:02:29.280
it was one of the crazy experience we've had
01:02:29.280 --> 01:02:33.159
because like um It takes a lot of energy for
01:02:33.159 --> 01:02:36.940
spirit to, um, manipulate and to move something,
01:02:37.099 --> 01:02:40.460
let alone throw something. So when that happened,
01:02:40.659 --> 01:02:43.539
it was so next level and it just took us off
01:02:43.539 --> 01:02:47.480
guard. And we felt so just like nervous and scared
01:02:47.480 --> 01:02:49.260
because I'm like, I don't think I've ever had
01:02:49.260 --> 01:02:51.340
something thrown at me. That was like our first
01:02:51.340 --> 01:02:54.000
experience of that. We didn't stay there. Yeah,
01:02:54.079 --> 01:02:55.639
no, we couldn't even sleep there that night.
01:02:55.639 --> 01:02:57.539
We usually sleep at a lot of places that we film
01:02:57.539 --> 01:03:00.789
and I was like, Nope. Joshua Tree is outside.
01:03:00.969 --> 01:03:03.769
Like you ladies were going to sleep out in like.
01:03:04.869 --> 01:03:09.230
Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh,
01:03:09.230 --> 01:03:09.309
oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh,
01:03:09.309 --> 01:03:09.309
oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh,
01:03:09.309 --> 01:03:09.309
oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh,
01:03:09.309 --> 01:03:09.369
oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh,
01:03:09.369 --> 01:03:09.949
oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh,
01:03:09.949 --> 01:03:10.269
oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh,
01:03:10.269 --> 01:03:17.869
oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh,
01:03:18.210 --> 01:03:24.619
oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, I have, we always
01:03:24.619 --> 01:03:26.179
wear our bracelets for protection. Right now
01:03:26.179 --> 01:03:28.320
these are just, um, different types of crystals,
01:03:28.639 --> 01:03:31.739
but I had a Jimmy, it's called Jimmy lapidio
01:03:31.739 --> 01:03:34.000
light. I forgot what the meaning was on that
01:03:34.000 --> 01:03:36.780
one. And it's a protective. Yeah. So I had my
01:03:36.780 --> 01:03:39.460
bracelet on and it just shattered. And this was
01:03:39.460 --> 01:03:42.320
after the rock, like an hour later and it's weird
01:03:42.320 --> 01:03:44.980
because it was thrown in my phone and the rock.
01:03:45.059 --> 01:03:48.539
And then my bracelet shatters everywhere. Doesn't,
01:03:48.539 --> 01:03:51.420
it doesn't make sense. came off, shattered on
01:03:51.420 --> 01:03:53.460
the ground. I was like, what the heck? It was
01:03:53.460 --> 01:03:55.719
almost like it was thrown against the wall and
01:03:55.719 --> 01:03:57.500
all the beads shatter. And it was just like,
01:03:57.579 --> 01:03:59.400
she just like, it almost just like fell off her
01:03:59.400 --> 01:04:02.739
hand. And that's your protection. Yeah. One of
01:04:02.739 --> 01:04:05.849
them. Yeah. Yeah. So it means like, we felt in
01:04:05.849 --> 01:04:08.250
the moment, like, they were just trying to unprotect
01:04:08.250 --> 01:04:11.570
us so they can get closer to us. Yeah, energies
01:04:11.570 --> 01:04:13.590
that were there. That's how we interpret it.
01:04:13.829 --> 01:04:15.610
Yeah. But yeah, I mean, we come across a lot
01:04:15.610 --> 01:04:18.050
of dark and scary shit. This is not like an easy
01:04:18.050 --> 01:04:20.449
thing that we do. We take a lot of precautions
01:04:20.449 --> 01:04:23.429
in what we do. But there's so many times that
01:04:23.429 --> 01:04:25.670
we come across stuff and we look at each other
01:04:25.670 --> 01:04:27.610
and we're like, oh, hell no. Like, we need to
01:04:27.610 --> 01:04:33.309
get the F out, you know? Yeah. and garlic and
01:04:33.309 --> 01:04:37.449
like. Well, they're not vampires. But you know,
01:04:37.530 --> 01:04:40.510
I love vampires, so. You never know what you're
01:04:40.510 --> 01:04:42.750
getting into. Hey, listen. Silver bullets, too,
01:04:42.809 --> 01:04:46.670
John. Yes. Werewolves, they're there. I watched
01:04:46.670 --> 01:04:51.710
Supernatural and I believe that salt is not just
01:04:51.710 --> 01:04:54.250
for vampires. I think it's spirits. They can't
01:04:54.250 --> 01:04:57.110
cross the salt barrier for. Yeah, like white
01:04:57.110 --> 01:05:02.940
spirits. Do you girls believe in shapeshifters?
01:05:03.460 --> 01:05:07.360
Oh, absolutely. Yeah. That's some freaky stuff.
01:05:07.760 --> 01:05:10.119
Did you guys go to the Skinwalker Ranch or did
01:05:10.119 --> 01:05:13.260
you do an episode? No, we're working with Jim,
01:05:13.659 --> 01:05:16.679
who's the manager. We're working on going out
01:05:16.679 --> 01:05:19.699
there, hopefully. I'm scared. That's one place
01:05:19.699 --> 01:05:22.000
I'm going to be truly scared of even just walking.
01:05:22.000 --> 01:05:23.659
Yeah, some freaky shit happens there for sure,
01:05:23.940 --> 01:05:27.860
man. Skinwalker, why is that the name? Skinwalker?
01:05:28.420 --> 01:05:31.139
It sounds freaky, right? Didn't know what the
01:05:31.139 --> 01:05:34.219
Native Americans call it that there. Oh, yeah.
01:05:34.460 --> 01:05:37.199
Well, you know, the Native Americans cursed the
01:05:37.199 --> 01:05:40.159
land when white men came over and took over the
01:05:40.159 --> 01:05:45.119
land. And so one of the curses was for them to
01:05:45.119 --> 01:05:49.559
be haunted and taunted by these so -called a
01:05:49.559 --> 01:05:52.760
.k .a. skin walkers that would scare them off
01:05:52.760 --> 01:05:55.860
of their land. And so that's where the original
01:05:55.860 --> 01:05:59.199
curse came from. And yeah, it's a pretty scary
01:05:59.199 --> 01:06:04.739
thing. I honestly for like native and we full
01:06:04.739 --> 01:06:08.619
on believe it. We know and work with Jonathan
01:06:08.619 --> 01:06:12.639
Dover who is a Native American on, was it New
01:06:12.639 --> 01:06:15.679
Mexico, like Navajo Nation. He's been on Netflix.
01:06:15.719 --> 01:06:17.719
He's a dear friend of ours. We love him to death.
01:06:18.260 --> 01:06:22.659
And he invited us to come out and see and film
01:06:22.659 --> 01:06:26.780
out there at his ranch. It's next level. So like
01:06:26.780 --> 01:06:29.300
we're preparing ourselves to do that because
01:06:29.300 --> 01:06:36.230
it is a lot. to do the skin walk thing. Do you
01:06:36.230 --> 01:06:39.010
know what skin walker ranch is, John? No, you
01:06:39.010 --> 01:06:41.250
need to look that up. There's all kinds of crazy
01:06:41.250 --> 01:06:45.230
stuff that happens there. It's like crazy cattle
01:06:45.230 --> 01:06:49.530
mutilations, UFO sightings, all kinds of crazy
01:06:49.530 --> 01:06:55.130
stuff. I feel like, well, when I was a child,
01:06:55.170 --> 01:06:57.230
when I was well, we have our own parent offices
01:06:57.230 --> 01:07:01.380
young, but like, My dad, he's huge into UFOs
01:07:01.380 --> 01:07:03.300
and some of our experiences. Wait, ladies, ladies,
01:07:03.539 --> 01:07:07.800
you can't go into both ghosts and UFOs. Sorry,
01:07:08.019 --> 01:07:11.300
no UFOs, no UFOs. We'll save it for episode two.
01:07:11.579 --> 01:07:13.739
Yeah. I was just saying, because then the audience
01:07:13.739 --> 01:07:15.840
would be like, wait, are these ladies out there?
01:07:15.980 --> 01:07:18.659
Now they're talking aliens and spirits. Well,
01:07:18.840 --> 01:07:21.079
are they aliens that go into the paranormal?
01:07:21.289 --> 01:07:23.289
Yeah, well, I'm joking. I believe in aliens,
01:07:23.489 --> 01:07:25.610
too. So let's go with it, ladies. That was interesting
01:07:25.610 --> 01:07:27.750
about the Untethered Soul book. Back to that,
01:07:27.769 --> 01:07:30.349
because the souls can visit other worlds, too.
01:07:30.630 --> 01:07:33.170
They can go and serve and have a lifetime in
01:07:33.170 --> 01:07:36.110
other worlds outside of Earth. Anyway, I digress.
01:07:36.969 --> 01:07:39.769
But let's digress here, because Chad and I were
01:07:39.769 --> 01:07:43.789
speaking a couple shows ago, and we kind of came
01:07:43.789 --> 01:07:45.849
across this thing. So you ladies have heard,
01:07:46.010 --> 01:07:49.510
like, we're possibly in a simulation and blah,
01:07:49.610 --> 01:07:52.070
blah, blah, blah, blah. And like the thought
01:07:52.070 --> 01:07:55.550
behind the simulation was like kind of we created
01:07:55.550 --> 01:07:58.349
it and then like passed it down to the people
01:07:58.349 --> 01:08:01.590
in like our likeness, our image. So like humans
01:08:01.590 --> 01:08:03.889
created it and they like passed it down to human
01:08:03.889 --> 01:08:05.710
people. But we were saying like a couple of weeks
01:08:05.710 --> 01:08:07.849
ago, what if it wasn't even humans that created
01:08:07.849 --> 01:08:10.190
it and they created this whole world? Like they
01:08:10.190 --> 01:08:12.849
created humans and they're really like spider
01:08:12.849 --> 01:08:15.590
looking creatures that created this simulation
01:08:15.590 --> 01:08:18.170
and just made this their, you know, us their
01:08:18.170 --> 01:08:22.529
avatar or whatever. So I guess, Mike, do you
01:08:22.529 --> 01:08:25.869
ladies have any thoughts on the simulation? And
01:08:25.869 --> 01:08:29.970
if so, what are they? Are we in it? Are we not?
01:08:30.649 --> 01:08:33.510
You possibly are in it. I mean simulation wise
01:08:33.510 --> 01:08:36.310
can go into tell me levels. I mean for me I'm
01:08:36.310 --> 01:08:40.550
more on the alien side for that with Have like
01:08:40.550 --> 01:08:43.550
if you go back to ancient alien times I feel
01:08:43.550 --> 01:08:46.369
like they are the ones that pretty much have
01:08:46.369 --> 01:08:49.630
created us and watch us since day one What if
01:08:49.630 --> 01:08:52.189
they're the ones what if they made the simulation?
01:08:53.470 --> 01:08:57.069
Well, they could be the simulators, right? Yeah,
01:08:57.090 --> 01:09:01.970
so for me to me it's our it's up there right
01:09:01.970 --> 01:09:05.229
that's who's watching us it's nothing else but
01:09:05.229 --> 01:09:09.689
that right and like as technology grows and advances
01:09:09.689 --> 01:09:13.149
we're getting to be more capable to see them
01:09:13.149 --> 01:09:15.069
because i feel like they've been able to see
01:09:15.069 --> 01:09:18.409
us since day one yeah what like as technology
01:09:18.409 --> 01:09:21.770
like i said has grown from like night vision
01:09:21.770 --> 01:09:25.680
to Thermal and things like that able to record
01:09:25.680 --> 01:09:27.899
it because even back in the day like long long
01:09:27.899 --> 01:09:32.659
long before any technology They recorded on like
01:09:32.659 --> 01:09:35.899
the rocks and edged it into there But they wouldn't
01:09:35.899 --> 01:09:38.359
record it like how we can see things in the sky
01:09:38.359 --> 01:09:41.600
and show other people Oh, yeah for ancient like
01:09:41.600 --> 01:09:44.699
for so many centuries of years. You can look
01:09:44.699 --> 01:09:49.020
at the Hieroglyphics that's in the rocks, right
01:09:49.020 --> 01:09:53.069
and you can see what they saw Right. It's like
01:09:53.069 --> 01:09:55.369
snapping a picture today is what they're saying.
01:09:55.369 --> 01:09:56.850
You mean like petroglyphs. Is that what you're
01:09:56.850 --> 01:10:01.289
talking about? Yes. It's all from back in that
01:10:01.289 --> 01:10:04.489
era of you can see it from thousands of years
01:10:04.489 --> 01:10:07.350
ago and they're painting a picture, which is
01:10:07.350 --> 01:10:09.170
super accurate. Right. Like where do you get
01:10:09.170 --> 01:10:12.800
the mindset? that time and that those thousands
01:10:12.800 --> 01:10:15.520
of years ago, where there's a flying object when
01:10:15.520 --> 01:10:18.840
there wasn't even supposedly technology to fly,
01:10:18.840 --> 01:10:21.239
right, or men and men in like spacesuit looking
01:10:21.239 --> 01:10:26.479
things that they're drawing, like suits and everything
01:10:26.479 --> 01:10:28.859
like their little breathing suits and everything.
01:10:29.399 --> 01:10:32.180
So they drew each other like supposedly people
01:10:32.180 --> 01:10:34.939
in their societies with like elongated heads
01:10:34.939 --> 01:10:37.779
and stuff like it was just a different, different
01:10:37.779 --> 01:10:41.020
time or some shit. Oh, yeah, absolutely. I mean,
01:10:41.439 --> 01:10:45.439
you have to look at the way, like, we evolved
01:10:45.439 --> 01:10:48.899
from humans. It could have stemmed from aliens.
01:10:49.100 --> 01:10:50.760
If you look from the bigger heads and smaller
01:10:50.760 --> 01:10:54.140
heads. Wait a second, ladies. Don't get sexual
01:10:54.140 --> 01:10:56.420
here. Bigger head, little heads. I see where
01:10:56.420 --> 01:10:57.779
you're going. I see where you're going. Okay,
01:10:58.079 --> 01:11:01.079
John. We see where you're going. Oh, by the way,
01:11:01.159 --> 01:11:04.649
I have a question. Are you guys married? We're
01:11:04.649 --> 01:11:09.229
divorced. Why you ladies looking? I know buttering
01:11:09.229 --> 01:11:13.989
on him. Just checking. Divorced. Yeah. Yeah.
01:11:14.250 --> 01:11:16.550
Rock on. So if you want to take advantage of
01:11:16.550 --> 01:11:18.850
Chad on your paranormal investigation, he might
01:11:18.850 --> 01:11:22.090
not put up too much of a fight. Putting that
01:11:22.090 --> 01:11:26.149
out there. Well, that's OK. I will say I'm fangirling
01:11:26.149 --> 01:11:29.050
just a little bit over Chad, so. You should be.
01:11:29.149 --> 01:11:32.850
Oh, thank you. Call me all about you. Oh, boy.
01:11:33.620 --> 01:11:36.739
I do now, that's so mean. You don't know? I just
01:11:36.739 --> 01:11:40.539
fuck with you. No, no, I saw, I mean, while I
01:11:40.539 --> 01:11:42.399
grew up listening to you, I'm not gonna date
01:11:42.399 --> 01:11:46.279
my age, but yeah, super honored to have, like,
01:11:46.340 --> 01:11:47.920
that's why I was like - Just date my age, you
01:11:47.920 --> 01:11:51.239
know? Well, I, luckily, she's my hairdresser,
01:11:51.460 --> 01:11:55.720
so she dyes my roots. You know, they get dyed,
01:11:56.159 --> 01:11:59.340
honey. Yeah. I thought about dying, and I'm like,
01:11:59.420 --> 01:12:02.399
eh, whatever. Fine. Yeah, but no. Love you, Chad.
01:12:02.399 --> 01:12:05.989
Thank you. I've I don't mean how many times I
01:12:05.989 --> 01:12:08.529
saw you in concert growing up. And I think the
01:12:08.529 --> 01:12:14.130
last time I saw you was counting crows 2000 ish.
01:12:14.210 --> 01:12:18.069
Yeah. Yeah. You want to write a rose garden.
01:12:18.329 --> 01:12:22.449
We did Taurus twice. We did 2000 and then 2018.
01:12:23.270 --> 01:12:27.869
Yeah. Yeah. So I saw you. I was like 20 years
01:12:27.869 --> 01:12:29.529
at the time. All right. Well, let me break through
01:12:29.529 --> 01:12:31.470
this to see if you're a real fan. What's your
01:12:31.470 --> 01:12:36.619
favorite live song? Well, obviously throwing
01:12:36.619 --> 01:12:39.380
hopper, we'll just take the album, right? Yeah,
01:12:39.380 --> 01:12:41.800
okay. You're on it. So we're cool. You could
01:12:41.800 --> 01:12:46.199
be at this point. Top 10 of all rock albums or
01:12:46.199 --> 01:12:49.380
alternative rock albums. Thank you. But yeah,
01:12:49.399 --> 01:12:51.739
like the songs obviously like lightning crashes
01:12:51.739 --> 01:12:53.739
is like an epic one. It's like gonna go down.
01:12:53.840 --> 01:12:56.680
That's where I cut. Yeah, I'm like, no, that's
01:12:56.680 --> 01:12:59.279
like a music bed. Let her talk. Let her talk.
01:12:59.420 --> 01:13:03.329
Let her go. but like dolphin the dolphin cry
01:13:03.329 --> 01:13:06.090
one is one of the most like to me was like heart
01:13:06.090 --> 01:13:09.989
touching one cool yeah that one's really good
01:13:09.989 --> 01:13:12.510
yeah and then oh like the overcome one like there's
01:13:12.510 --> 01:13:15.989
so many of them like the isle of one like there's
01:13:15.989 --> 01:13:17.909
just so many of them i think you know obviously
01:13:17.909 --> 01:13:20.310
lightning crashes and the meaning behind that
01:13:20.310 --> 01:13:23.890
song um which is few words and what it meant
01:13:23.890 --> 01:13:27.880
was so meaningful but yeah i know like Super
01:13:27.880 --> 01:13:30.520
super happy to and that's why I said I was felt
01:13:30.520 --> 01:13:32.539
so honored because I was like, oh my god She
01:13:32.539 --> 01:13:36.520
was so happy. I was like, hey guys fucking playing
01:13:36.520 --> 01:13:38.760
your music. I was like, okay, I gotta listen
01:13:38.760 --> 01:13:42.560
to this. Yeah Don always likes to remind me because
01:13:42.560 --> 01:13:46.560
I I'm Just a very humble person and I never know
01:13:46.560 --> 01:13:53.760
if people know when I reach out to them People
01:13:53.760 --> 01:13:55.819
know who you are. Just reach out and fuck you.
01:13:55.979 --> 01:13:58.220
Go ask them if they want to be on the podcast.
01:13:58.359 --> 01:14:01.279
I'm like, OK. Yeah, I'm like, dude, you're fucking
01:14:01.279 --> 01:14:04.819
Chad, fucking Gracie, the man, the myth, the
01:14:04.819 --> 01:14:09.819
legend. Go out as so, you know, which is that
01:14:09.819 --> 01:14:11.800
this is kind of why people fall in love with
01:14:11.800 --> 01:14:13.939
Chad is because, you know, he is a humble person
01:14:13.939 --> 01:14:16.220
and doesn't sit there and need to do these brags
01:14:16.220 --> 01:14:20.000
and stuff like that. He's I know who Chad really
01:14:20.000 --> 01:14:22.819
is because he's just so down to earth. So. These
01:14:22.819 --> 01:14:25.560
are normal dude that just had ultra success and
01:14:25.560 --> 01:14:28.060
didn't let it get to his head, which is crazy
01:14:28.060 --> 01:14:32.140
because a lot of times it does. Well, it does,
01:14:32.300 --> 01:14:34.680
yeah. No, but like if people in general, it does
01:14:34.680 --> 01:14:37.720
get to their heads or whatnot. But I had a question.
01:14:37.939 --> 01:14:41.539
Did you ladies actually ever physically hear
01:14:41.539 --> 01:14:43.220
the dolphins cry? Because I feel like I've only
01:14:43.220 --> 01:14:45.539
heard them laugh. I've never heard them cry.
01:14:46.119 --> 01:14:50.260
I feel like I heard them laugh too. Oh, true.
01:14:52.910 --> 01:14:55.390
I do. Got you. I'm sorry. That was one of the
01:14:55.390 --> 01:14:57.350
lyrics. I just was like, what? What is this?
01:14:57.489 --> 01:14:59.930
Dolphins cry. OK. The song is cool. I love it.
01:15:00.029 --> 01:15:01.609
But the lyric, I'm like, I don't know where that
01:15:01.609 --> 01:15:05.130
came from. Yeah. It fucking works, though. I'll
01:15:05.130 --> 01:15:09.510
tell you. It works. Oh, yeah. Hey, Ed is a genius.
01:15:09.710 --> 01:15:12.970
I'll give it as Ed is a lyrical and melodic genius,
01:15:12.970 --> 01:15:16.550
for sure. Yeah, absolutely. And if love did lead
01:15:16.550 --> 01:15:19.449
us, we would be all right. So he was on to something.
01:15:22.079 --> 01:15:27.319
I do like the Just the like in top like the the
01:15:27.319 --> 01:15:29.579
lyrics there was like angst to them like they
01:15:29.579 --> 01:15:32.859
just became kind of part of my French ladies,
01:15:32.859 --> 01:15:35.220
but like kind of pussy lyrics like, you know,
01:15:35.300 --> 01:15:37.760
like Oh Hitler in a robe of truth like that's
01:15:37.760 --> 01:15:40.760
a fucking cool lyric and then like, okay. Yes
01:15:40.760 --> 01:15:43.560
level lead us we get it but Tell me something
01:15:43.560 --> 01:15:49.220
like dirty and edgy and grungy. Anywho Sorry,
01:15:49.600 --> 01:15:52.159
I'm like some of the lyrics were kind of cutting
01:15:52.159 --> 01:15:54.640
edge. If you think about like lightning crashes
01:15:54.640 --> 01:15:57.359
in that moment, like they're telling a whole
01:15:57.359 --> 01:16:00.760
story. And yeah, long as I feel like, um, at
01:16:00.760 --> 01:16:03.899
that time, it was just like, uh, leading the
01:16:03.899 --> 01:16:07.640
path for people to be able to be more open on
01:16:07.640 --> 01:16:09.739
what they're telling storytelling. Cause that's
01:16:09.739 --> 01:16:12.840
what music is, you know, like We love music.
01:16:13.140 --> 01:16:15.939
I originally went to Portland Academy of Music
01:16:15.939 --> 01:16:18.479
to be a music producer and those are things that
01:16:18.479 --> 01:16:20.579
are like super like we both write. Me and her
01:16:20.579 --> 01:16:23.340
both write. We wrote our songs. I wrote a poem.
01:16:23.520 --> 01:16:24.920
I write poems. Well yeah, Sharice's poem I write.
01:16:25.000 --> 01:16:28.560
I don't write songs. We do both write. She's
01:16:28.560 --> 01:16:31.560
talented in her ways with her lyrics and stuff
01:16:31.560 --> 01:16:33.899
but yeah like you know she wrote our whole Spirit
01:16:33.899 --> 01:16:37.760
Seeker song and yeah. it's yeah so we just you
01:16:37.760 --> 01:16:39.720
know when we play off of it I had like some of
01:16:39.720 --> 01:16:41.899
the beats down she had the lyrics down we put
01:16:41.899 --> 01:16:44.899
it together but you know those are things that
01:16:44.899 --> 01:16:47.619
we like to do music plays a part in everyone's
01:16:47.619 --> 01:16:50.079
life you know it doesn't matter who you are like
01:16:50.079 --> 01:16:54.500
yeah it's like a it's a storytelling way of expressing
01:16:54.500 --> 01:16:57.300
your feelings it's like a universal language
01:16:57.300 --> 01:17:01.000
oh yeah you said portland academy uses that portland
01:17:01.000 --> 01:17:03.149
oregon Yeah. Portland. Yeah. Yeah. I lived up
01:17:03.149 --> 01:17:04.989
there. I lived in, I lived in Portland, Oregon
01:17:04.989 --> 01:17:10.189
from 95 to 2005 before. That's crazy. Yeah. Yeah.
01:17:10.189 --> 01:17:12.670
That's where I see you guys. So yeah, that's
01:17:12.670 --> 01:17:15.069
cool. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. I saw you. I saw you
01:17:15.069 --> 01:17:17.050
with, um, that's where you like, I saw the concert,
01:17:17.050 --> 01:17:20.829
uh, counting crows and it was at the road. Yes.
01:17:21.489 --> 01:17:24.210
2000. Got it. Right. Yeah. When you're on tour
01:17:24.210 --> 01:17:26.470
with them, that's when you were single chat and
01:17:26.470 --> 01:17:28.890
you and Adam were like hanging out after the
01:17:28.890 --> 01:17:32.420
shows, right? Yeah. So So I moved to Portland
01:17:32.420 --> 01:17:34.680
because of my first wife and I moved to Orange
01:17:34.680 --> 01:17:38.220
County because of my second wife so I'm not moving
01:17:38.220 --> 01:17:41.920
anywhere else for girls. I'm not moving anywhere
01:17:41.920 --> 01:17:43.819
else for a woman. Do you want to come to England
01:17:43.819 --> 01:17:47.020
Empire? He's moving back to the East Coast for
01:17:47.020 --> 01:17:54.579
for me his I don't want a third wife. Thank you.
01:17:55.460 --> 01:17:58.380
Well, ladies. So there was this dating app field
01:17:58.380 --> 01:18:00.579
felt whatever the fuck it is. And when I first
01:18:00.579 --> 01:18:03.239
got on it, it was like what I thought it was
01:18:03.239 --> 01:18:05.859
saying, like, do you know somebody on this app?
01:18:06.020 --> 01:18:08.359
So like I sent to Chad, like, oh, there's a cool
01:18:08.359 --> 01:18:10.680
dating app, whatever. But really what I was doing
01:18:10.680 --> 01:18:13.800
was selecting him as my like. gay partner and
01:18:13.800 --> 01:18:16.899
like putting that out putting that out to the
01:18:16.899 --> 01:18:19.220
people on the app so like he like texted me he's
01:18:19.220 --> 01:18:20.399
like i'm like dude did you get my thing he's
01:18:20.399 --> 01:18:22.880
like uh yeah and kind of blew past it and then
01:18:22.880 --> 01:18:25.199
when i realized like what i did i was like dude
01:18:25.199 --> 01:18:27.840
i sent you a thing to be my partner and you kind
01:18:27.840 --> 01:18:29.659
of just blew over it didn't tell me like what
01:18:29.659 --> 01:18:32.600
the fuck i was uh meaning there with that That
01:18:32.600 --> 01:18:34.960
app is like there's a lot of like couples and
01:18:34.960 --> 01:18:37.039
swingers on that app. So it's you can partner
01:18:37.039 --> 01:18:39.500
with somebody and it's like your swinging partner,
01:18:39.520 --> 01:18:42.479
basically. No, not your gay swinging partner.
01:18:42.659 --> 01:18:45.380
We're good. Oh, my God. And I was I was crying
01:18:45.380 --> 01:18:47.880
laughing like once I realized what was going
01:18:47.880 --> 01:18:50.279
on and like I'm like, what the fuck was Chad
01:18:50.279 --> 01:18:52.800
thinking I was doing? So I'm like crying laughing
01:18:52.800 --> 01:18:55.239
when I realized the mistake you made. I know,
01:18:55.239 --> 01:18:57.359
but I didn't. I'm like, no, that's hysterical.
01:18:57.600 --> 01:19:03.750
You did it. Yeah. Um, ladies, I do want to talk
01:19:03.750 --> 01:19:06.109
about this. You have some cool equipment that
01:19:06.109 --> 01:19:07.550
you bring out where... Yeah, I want to touch
01:19:07.550 --> 01:19:10.090
on gear, too. Sorry, go ahead, John. No, by all
01:19:10.090 --> 01:19:12.970
means. Yeah, we have a lot of... Should we grab
01:19:12.970 --> 01:19:16.390
some? Is there, like, one company that makes,
01:19:16.590 --> 01:19:19.689
like, the coolest, most high -tech... Yes. ...most
01:19:19.689 --> 01:19:22.310
accurate gear? Hold on, hold on. Let me grab
01:19:22.310 --> 01:19:24.229
some other gear. I'm going to just grab some
01:19:24.229 --> 01:19:26.229
seconds. Please do. While you're doing that,
01:19:26.229 --> 01:19:27.970
I'm going to play one of your videos so we could
01:19:27.970 --> 01:19:31.890
show them something in action. We're SoCal Spirit
01:19:31.890 --> 01:19:34.829
Seekers. Oh, we got you. Come on now. If I didn't
01:19:34.829 --> 01:19:40.229
know that, I have to. Here we go. Boom shakalaka.
01:19:40.409 --> 01:19:42.149
So check this out. This is like I'm going to
01:19:42.149 --> 01:19:43.569
have them explain it, but I'm going to I'm going
01:19:43.569 --> 01:19:45.949
to play what I think it is. I think it's them
01:19:45.949 --> 01:19:49.050
speaking to a spirit and using their energy to
01:19:49.050 --> 01:19:52.970
communicate through like almost text. Let's play
01:19:52.970 --> 01:19:55.810
this. Or, yeah, I'm clicking the wrong thing.
01:19:55.909 --> 01:20:14.699
There we go. So that's what that was right ladies
01:20:14.699 --> 01:20:19.579
that was you girls picking up spirits like energy
01:20:19.579 --> 01:20:24.619
and them like putting it so we can get words
01:20:24.619 --> 01:20:26.520
and a lot of spirits can come through different
01:20:26.520 --> 01:20:28.720
spirits like let's say we know there's a spirit
01:20:28.720 --> 01:20:31.539
that passed away and his name let's say was Robert
01:20:31.539 --> 01:20:34.359
but another spirit can come through sometimes
01:20:34.359 --> 01:20:37.520
so we're probably not talking to Robert or Robert
01:20:37.520 --> 01:20:39.880
came through and we're like okay it clarifies
01:20:39.880 --> 01:20:43.340
it's Robert he's here you know so a different
01:20:43.340 --> 01:20:46.020
spirits can come through and it's not like you
01:20:46.020 --> 01:20:48.300
can help it you know they just use their energy
01:20:48.300 --> 01:20:50.460
sometimes those spirits are stronger than the
01:20:50.460 --> 01:20:53.569
ones we're trying to talk to So that's what happens.
01:20:53.750 --> 01:20:56.729
And then the other device you see is a K2 meter.
01:20:57.250 --> 01:21:00.149
And we'll use this too. So we use the yellow
01:21:00.149 --> 01:21:04.010
light as a yes. So we'll say, you know, like,
01:21:04.010 --> 01:21:07.310
are you here right now and go to yellow? And
01:21:07.310 --> 01:21:09.369
sometimes it will, or sometimes it won't. And
01:21:09.369 --> 01:21:12.189
then we use red as no. Are you telling them your
01:21:12.189 --> 01:21:13.550
thoughts before? And like, if you're here now,
01:21:13.590 --> 01:21:17.510
go to yellow? Or is this like? Yeah, we speak
01:21:17.510 --> 01:21:21.119
it out and tell them. or we're like use all your
01:21:21.119 --> 01:21:23.779
energy like the spirit and go to red if you're
01:21:23.779 --> 01:21:26.939
here or you know are you an evil spirit go all
01:21:26.939 --> 01:21:29.340
the way to red so sometimes it does sometimes
01:21:29.340 --> 01:21:32.119
it just stays green where it's just even you
01:21:32.119 --> 01:21:36.000
know energy on the device wow i've often wondered
01:21:36.000 --> 01:21:40.039
this even about other ghost shows did you ever
01:21:40.039 --> 01:21:42.520
run into spirits that don't speak english Oh,
01:21:42.640 --> 01:21:45.539
absolutely. Yeah. I've never seen I've never
01:21:45.539 --> 01:21:46.819
seen on another show where they're like, oh,
01:21:46.880 --> 01:21:48.380
this guy speaks, you know, they speak Spanish,
01:21:48.420 --> 01:21:50.439
they don't understand each other. Yeah, there
01:21:50.439 --> 01:21:53.880
has been a lot. And then also, people hate on
01:21:53.880 --> 01:21:55.579
us. Yeah, they'll shit talk. They'll be like,
01:21:55.779 --> 01:21:58.420
oh, they only speak English. How is it so convenient?
01:21:58.880 --> 01:22:02.439
You're, you really think about it too. Like in
01:22:02.439 --> 01:22:06.020
America, our language is mainly English, right?
01:22:06.090 --> 01:22:10.409
Right. Other languages, but mainly English. So
01:22:10.409 --> 01:22:13.310
when you're in an area, most of the time, you're
01:22:13.310 --> 01:22:15.250
probably going to get it. It's going to be English,
01:22:15.250 --> 01:22:18.130
right? No. So if I'm in Germany, I might not
01:22:18.130 --> 01:22:21.010
understand them because I come in, you know,
01:22:21.050 --> 01:22:25.130
the German language. Sure. Yeah. Is there a universal
01:22:25.130 --> 01:22:27.930
language where like, there's no words, but like,
01:22:28.069 --> 01:22:30.329
maybe there's feelings where you could interpret
01:22:30.329 --> 01:22:32.670
what they're trying to get across? Yeah, John's
01:22:32.670 --> 01:22:35.800
called love. Well, I know that. I know that language
01:22:35.800 --> 01:22:40.199
pretty well, but I'm just saying without like
01:22:40.199 --> 01:22:42.319
speaking, we'll both walk into a room and go,
01:22:42.399 --> 01:22:46.180
Oh my God. Do you feel that? You know, so we
01:22:46.180 --> 01:22:48.500
feel it and it's sometimes when it's scary, it's
01:22:48.500 --> 01:22:50.880
like, Whoa, and it's heavy. I'm like, I don't
01:22:50.880 --> 01:22:53.619
want to be in this room right now. Yeah. So you
01:22:53.619 --> 01:22:55.300
don't even have to speak to it. You can feel
01:22:55.300 --> 01:22:57.829
it. Like you're saying Can you ladies summon
01:22:57.829 --> 01:23:01.770
like a sexual ghost for me that just wakes me
01:23:01.770 --> 01:23:03.569
up in the middle of the night? There are some
01:23:03.569 --> 01:23:06.850
like that. And they're evil. Oh, they're evil.
01:23:07.369 --> 01:23:10.789
Yeah. All right. Yeah. Never. Never mind then.
01:23:10.970 --> 01:23:12.510
I don't want to stare. It's going to milk you,
01:23:12.630 --> 01:23:16.470
John. I'll just send you a stripper. We'll send
01:23:16.470 --> 01:23:19.630
you a stripper, John. OK, that works. That works.
01:23:20.029 --> 01:23:22.369
No, we have those in Jersey. I'm looking for
01:23:22.369 --> 01:23:30.369
the spiritual stripper. You can find anything
01:23:30.369 --> 01:23:37.649
in California that is true Are you ladies like
01:23:37.649 --> 01:23:41.970
family like from the West Coast any East Coast
01:23:41.970 --> 01:23:43.989
relatives that are a lot cooler than your West
01:23:43.989 --> 01:23:51.060
Coast relative I do. So I have a lot of family
01:23:51.060 --> 01:23:54.659
from New York and Connecticut, Hartford area,
01:23:54.899 --> 01:23:59.100
Fairfield, Connecticut, Upper State, New York.
01:23:59.180 --> 01:24:01.819
So we're kind of spread all over the place. But
01:24:01.819 --> 01:24:05.199
a majority of them is New York and Connecticut.
01:24:05.500 --> 01:24:07.500
That's like aunts and uncles and cousins are
01:24:07.500 --> 01:24:10.939
from there. But yeah, you have a big family,
01:24:11.000 --> 01:24:15.510
I'm guessing. Yes and no. I guess like distant
01:24:15.510 --> 01:24:18.829
relatives, yes, but like intermediate, no. And
01:24:18.829 --> 01:24:20.829
that's the same with me, too. Yeah. Well, for
01:24:20.829 --> 01:24:25.069
me, I'm not married with children, so. Hey, single,
01:24:25.369 --> 01:24:28.250
ready to mingle if I'm reading into it properly.
01:24:29.369 --> 01:24:31.409
Absolutely. You know, we got to have fun in life.
01:24:31.890 --> 01:24:35.069
Free spirits. Yeah, you really do. We're free
01:24:35.069 --> 01:24:38.430
spirits. Yeah. And you're seeking spirits as
01:24:38.430 --> 01:24:42.069
well that are free in nature. Yeah. I do have
01:24:42.069 --> 01:24:44.750
a daughter. She's 16. Yeah. You have a daughter
01:24:44.750 --> 01:24:48.569
that's 16? Yeah. Did you have three? I'm like
01:24:48.569 --> 01:24:51.890
your mom. I'm like your mom. I was 19 when I
01:24:51.890 --> 01:24:57.550
had her. Wow. The guys. I'm just kidding. I promise
01:24:57.550 --> 01:25:02.750
you I'm not hitting on you. I thought you were
01:25:02.750 --> 01:25:06.350
like 21. Oh my gosh. Thank you. She's hot though,
01:25:06.510 --> 01:25:08.979
yeah. You know what it is? It's the lighting
01:25:08.979 --> 01:25:11.359
and the camera. It's not high left. I know. I
01:25:11.359 --> 01:25:15.939
don't want you to see my wrinkles. Yes, your
01:25:15.939 --> 01:25:18.199
kid's going to go through that. Yeah, have him
01:25:18.199 --> 01:25:20.779
embarrass his friends at the table, too, you
01:25:20.779 --> 01:25:22.279
know, talking about what they said about his
01:25:22.279 --> 01:25:27.420
hot mother. Yeah. Good laughter. It's fun. You
01:25:27.420 --> 01:25:31.180
know, I'm happy. I tell her, you can't have a
01:25:31.180 --> 01:25:33.979
baby till you're 30. Yeah. But I do have respect
01:25:33.979 --> 01:25:37.039
for her. having her young because now that she's
01:25:37.039 --> 01:25:39.140
older, she's like my best friend. I can do things
01:25:39.140 --> 01:25:41.460
with her. I'm still young enough to have fun
01:25:41.460 --> 01:25:44.260
with her, you know, and like enjoy life with
01:25:44.260 --> 01:25:46.439
her. If I had her in my thirties or forties,
01:25:46.500 --> 01:25:49.899
then I'd be like not too old, but not young enough
01:25:49.899 --> 01:25:53.199
to do what we can do together. Yes. I love you.
01:25:53.359 --> 01:25:55.680
You hit the nail on the head. If you have the
01:25:55.680 --> 01:25:58.960
wherewithal to be able to actually raise a kid
01:25:58.960 --> 01:26:02.029
as a young person. You have that high energy
01:26:02.029 --> 01:26:04.710
level to really give them your all and focus
01:26:04.710 --> 01:26:07.670
on them that a lot of later parents might not
01:26:07.670 --> 01:26:10.770
have. But it's hard to be that person at such
01:26:10.770 --> 01:26:13.869
a young age. My girls are 11. When they graduate
01:26:13.869 --> 01:26:15.789
college, they'll be like, is that your grandpa
01:26:15.789 --> 01:26:19.550
sitting in the audience? So you have two girls
01:26:19.550 --> 01:26:22.930
that are 11, Chad? Yeah, they're twins. Oh my
01:26:22.930 --> 01:26:25.470
God, that's awesome. And I have a 15 year old
01:26:25.470 --> 01:26:29.600
son as well. He's ginormous. He's like a basketball
01:26:29.600 --> 01:26:35.640
player. He's almost 6 '3 right now. He's 15.
01:26:36.239 --> 01:26:38.399
Oh, wow. He's so tall. I know, because her 16
01:26:38.399 --> 01:26:40.420
-year -old daughter, which is my niece, she,
01:26:40.420 --> 01:26:42.779
like, supersedes me. I'm like... Well, with me,
01:26:42.920 --> 01:26:45.159
I'm taller than her, but my daughter is shorter.
01:26:45.479 --> 01:26:47.659
But her daughter is always, like, above me. I'm
01:26:47.659 --> 01:26:50.220
like, why is my niece taller than me? It's not
01:26:50.220 --> 01:26:52.300
fair. So now you just brought up another thing.
01:26:52.340 --> 01:26:55.239
Her 16 -year -old daughter, which is your niece...
01:26:55.279 --> 01:26:57.500
And now are you guys related? Or is this like
01:26:57.500 --> 01:27:03.720
I call her? I mean, we've been friends for over
01:27:03.720 --> 01:27:06.159
a decade. And I've known Kaylee since she was
01:27:06.159 --> 01:27:09.579
this big. So it's like, we were once that big.
01:27:09.699 --> 01:27:15.560
I keep forgetting that. Yeah. My baby sister
01:27:15.560 --> 01:27:18.399
just had a baby. And, you know, you would get
01:27:18.399 --> 01:27:21.239
progress reports as the baby's growing in utero.
01:27:21.560 --> 01:27:24.020
and at some point it was like the size of nothing
01:27:24.020 --> 01:27:26.479
and then at some point it was like a pea and
01:27:26.479 --> 01:27:29.239
then a you know peanut and all that jazz but
01:27:29.239 --> 01:27:32.300
a beautiful beautiful baby girl just born Hayden
01:27:32.300 --> 01:27:35.460
shout out to my beautiful niece and grad yes
01:27:35.460 --> 01:27:39.779
she is adorable she came out i think i saw the
01:27:39.779 --> 01:27:43.140
photo on your ig so cute if it's the one where
01:27:43.140 --> 01:27:44.699
they're holding her like when she first came
01:27:44.699 --> 01:27:46.899
out they're like holding her like simba she looks
01:27:46.899 --> 01:27:51.210
weird Like, but hours later, I guess like from
01:27:51.210 --> 01:27:53.329
coming through the canal, her face started forming
01:27:53.329 --> 01:27:56.930
properly. She's a beautiful, beautiful baby.
01:27:57.350 --> 01:28:01.229
More beautiful than my god, my godson Harrison
01:28:01.229 --> 01:28:03.609
was at that age. Not saying, you know, in the
01:28:03.609 --> 01:28:06.590
future. But that's how honest I'm being. She
01:28:06.590 --> 01:28:08.789
just came out perfect. It was it was kind of
01:28:08.789 --> 01:28:12.590
wacky. And I don't love anybody more than Harrison
01:28:12.590 --> 01:28:16.529
so I say I don't say these things Slightly or
01:28:16.529 --> 01:28:26.710
whatever That's the problem with this live show
01:28:26.710 --> 01:28:29.850
and then sometimes we have people cut up like
01:28:29.850 --> 01:28:33.390
the show that is not myself or Chad and they'll
01:28:33.390 --> 01:28:35.750
like put the part like cut the parts and put
01:28:35.750 --> 01:28:38.079
in clips that I'm like I didn't want to say that
01:28:38.079 --> 01:28:40.420
or, you know, that should have been left out
01:28:40.420 --> 01:28:44.500
of the show. Why did that come up? Right. Right.
01:28:44.800 --> 01:28:46.899
I have a question. How did the two of you guys
01:28:46.899 --> 01:28:51.539
meet? There was a gay part of Central Park way
01:28:51.539 --> 01:28:57.060
back in the day that no brambles, brambles. Yeah,
01:28:57.060 --> 01:29:02.079
that's right. Well, Matt is Matt is like John
01:29:02.079 --> 01:29:05.289
is a super fan of live. He's been. In fact, he
01:29:05.289 --> 01:29:09.609
has a great story about his mom and his girlfriend
01:29:09.609 --> 01:29:12.170
at one of our shows. Go ahead, Jon, tell it.
01:29:12.710 --> 01:29:15.430
All right. I'll bring you back, ladies. This
01:29:15.430 --> 01:29:20.130
was around 2000, somewhere around that area when
01:29:20.130 --> 01:29:21.649
you were going to see them at with the county
01:29:21.649 --> 01:29:25.850
grows. But I go to a concert at Starland Ballroom
01:29:25.850 --> 01:29:29.569
in New Jersey with my brother, who's 11, my mother
01:29:29.569 --> 01:29:32.630
and my girlfriend at the time. And I already
01:29:32.630 --> 01:29:35.149
let you know that my mother was a looker for
01:29:35.149 --> 01:29:37.689
her age and all that jazz. And the girl I was
01:29:37.689 --> 01:29:41.409
dating was a pretty pretty girl. Concert ends,
01:29:41.409 --> 01:29:44.729
I'm with my little brother and my mother and
01:29:44.729 --> 01:29:47.329
girlfriend are just nowhere to be found. So I'm
01:29:47.329 --> 01:29:50.930
like, where the fuck are these ladies? And like
01:29:50.930 --> 01:29:53.550
now the venue is like kind of clearing out. So
01:29:53.550 --> 01:29:56.510
I'm like, they must have made it backstage. So
01:29:56.510 --> 01:29:59.390
there's a big bouncer dude, like kind of, you
01:29:59.390 --> 01:30:03.659
know, the backstage area. And I bring my little
01:30:03.659 --> 01:30:05.260
brother, I'm like, listen, I'm like, my mother's
01:30:05.260 --> 01:30:07.520
up there and my father is calling, like, I got
01:30:07.520 --> 01:30:09.579
to get my little brother home. Is there any way
01:30:09.579 --> 01:30:11.359
we could go up there and just grab her and get
01:30:11.359 --> 01:30:13.859
her out? And he's like, your mom is saying, oh,
01:30:13.859 --> 01:30:17.859
no, that story right now. Yeah. Yeah. Watching,
01:30:17.899 --> 01:30:22.699
by the way. Yeah. Hi, mom. Hi, mom. My mom's
01:30:22.699 --> 01:30:26.659
probably watching too. Oh, hi, mom. That's why
01:30:26.659 --> 01:30:28.680
we have to watch what we say on here. The moms
01:30:28.680 --> 01:30:31.500
are always watching. And we get homework reports
01:30:31.500 --> 01:30:36.260
afterwards. So I should preface this, that I'm
01:30:36.260 --> 01:30:39.899
young and dumb. I'm like 19, 20, somewhere around
01:30:39.899 --> 01:30:43.000
there. So this is not the way I would react at
01:30:43.000 --> 01:30:47.260
this particular time. So I'm like, my mother's
01:30:47.260 --> 01:30:49.520
up there. I'm with my younger brother and my
01:30:49.520 --> 01:30:51.180
girlfriend's up there. And in my brain, I'm like,
01:30:51.220 --> 01:30:53.779
my girlfriend is probably blowing the entire
01:30:53.779 --> 01:31:03.300
band. So. I the the gentleman lets us go backstage.
01:31:04.000 --> 01:31:06.960
It was actually upstairs. And we walk into like
01:31:06.960 --> 01:31:09.640
what should have been like the coolest vibe ever.
01:31:09.640 --> 01:31:14.579
Yeah. I just ruined it. I'm like, where the fuck
01:31:14.579 --> 01:31:18.600
is screaming from my mother, my girlfriend and
01:31:18.600 --> 01:31:21.560
like the party that was going on just kind of
01:31:21.560 --> 01:31:24.380
went silent. And everybody just like looks at
01:31:24.380 --> 01:31:28.340
me like, what the fuck, dude? And then, you know,
01:31:28.520 --> 01:31:30.199
slowly. It was like that record scratch mode
01:31:30.199 --> 01:31:35.960
was like, yeah, this guy. I wasn't embarrassed
01:31:35.960 --> 01:31:38.279
at all. Didn't care. And nobody answered me.
01:31:38.300 --> 01:31:40.399
Just went silent. And then they went about their
01:31:40.399 --> 01:31:42.720
thing. And then I find my mother and girlfriend
01:31:42.720 --> 01:31:46.939
in the closet with the bassist, Patrick Delheimer,
01:31:47.199 --> 01:31:49.159
puffing on some greenery, having a good old time,
01:31:49.279 --> 01:31:57.029
not blowing him, not blowing him. Here's the
01:31:57.029 --> 01:32:01.090
coup de grace. So then again, I'm a hothead here
01:32:01.090 --> 01:32:05.390
doing stupid shit not realizing so they my mother
01:32:05.390 --> 01:32:07.909
and girlfriend realize like he's a fucking weirdo
01:32:07.909 --> 01:32:09.890
right now. We got to like leave get out of here.
01:32:10.149 --> 01:32:12.930
So get out of there as we leave and the door
01:32:12.930 --> 01:32:15.050
closes behind us to like the backstage area.
01:32:15.229 --> 01:32:18.050
I like snap out of him. Like, wait a second.
01:32:18.130 --> 01:32:21.220
You were just backstage with live. Could have
01:32:21.220 --> 01:32:25.340
had a fucking grand old time partying, but you
01:32:25.340 --> 01:32:29.000
fucked it all up and made a scene for whatever
01:32:29.000 --> 01:32:32.720
dumb reason. And yeah, so that was like that
01:32:32.720 --> 01:32:34.699
might have been the first time we met, Chad.
01:32:35.319 --> 01:32:38.800
Yeah, yeah. Well, I can go down the history books
01:32:38.800 --> 01:32:41.619
for a first meeting. Yeah. Well, so John had
01:32:41.619 --> 01:32:44.460
a John has a podcast called Good Times Universe,
01:32:44.460 --> 01:32:47.579
and he invited me on what year and a half ago,
01:32:47.619 --> 01:32:50.239
two years ago now. Yeah, coming on to. Yeah.
01:32:50.460 --> 01:32:52.800
Yeah. And then we did the podcast and it was
01:32:52.800 --> 01:32:55.619
fun. And then we did it again. And then after
01:32:55.619 --> 01:32:59.300
that, we did this person came down here to the
01:32:59.300 --> 01:33:01.760
building. And then and then he came to me. He's
01:33:01.760 --> 01:33:03.699
like, hey, would you ever want to do a podcast?
01:33:03.760 --> 01:33:08.399
And at the time I was like, sure. Yes. Why not?
01:33:08.739 --> 01:33:10.819
I'll talk to I'll talk about shit. Whatever.
01:33:11.239 --> 01:33:13.779
Check out how how kismet it was. I mean, I don't
01:33:13.779 --> 01:33:16.039
even know if Chad knows this little beginning
01:33:16.039 --> 01:33:18.880
part of it. I've been I was looking to do this
01:33:18.880 --> 01:33:22.789
live show. As I had the other the other interview
01:33:22.789 --> 01:33:24.609
podcast that was going, it was just like too
01:33:24.609 --> 01:33:27.189
serious for me because it was like I was getting
01:33:27.189 --> 01:33:29.630
cool guests, but like I had to be serious. No
01:33:29.630 --> 01:33:33.930
joking. What was that? I said, that's not fun.
01:33:34.050 --> 01:33:38.270
You have to have fun. Yeah, exactly. And then
01:33:38.270 --> 01:33:40.670
him and I did that second podcast together and
01:33:40.670 --> 01:33:43.109
it was, you know, we did it in person and there
01:33:43.109 --> 01:33:45.130
was just like a vibe there that was kind of cool.
01:33:45.250 --> 01:33:48.689
And I had tried this show out with like two other.
01:33:48.920 --> 01:33:51.699
or maybe three other co -hosts. And it just wasn't
01:33:51.699 --> 01:33:55.739
jiving. And asked him if he would be interested
01:33:55.739 --> 01:33:59.520
in it. And then like, here we are now. And yeah,
01:34:00.180 --> 01:34:01.880
that's cool. That's the show where we were drinking,
01:34:02.279 --> 01:34:06.020
right? The second your second time we did your
01:34:06.020 --> 01:34:08.899
podcast. Were you drinking? I. that we might
01:34:08.899 --> 01:34:11.979
have been. But I think we did one bonus episode
01:34:11.979 --> 01:34:14.420
for this where we're at the studio. Well, we
01:34:14.420 --> 01:34:16.859
definitely did that. Yeah. Yeah. We we probably
01:34:16.859 --> 01:34:18.520
were. Yeah, because Deirdre was there working
01:34:18.520 --> 01:34:22.899
the cameras and stuff and all that jazz. Probably
01:34:22.899 --> 01:34:26.180
we should be drinking more often because we actually
01:34:26.180 --> 01:34:28.500
get into like we let the guard down. Even though
01:34:28.500 --> 01:34:30.840
we don't really have a guard up, we still get
01:34:30.840 --> 01:34:34.829
a little bit more, you know. Let loose. You picked
01:34:34.829 --> 01:34:39.770
1 p .m. to do this show every day. I know. What
01:34:39.770 --> 01:34:43.649
a weird time, dude. Like, what was in that? And,
01:34:43.789 --> 01:34:48.810
you know, you know, hey, it makes sense. That's
01:34:48.810 --> 01:34:51.329
how we met. And so I was like, yeah, sounds great.
01:34:51.409 --> 01:34:54.369
Let's let's do that. And this is we're on the
01:34:54.369 --> 01:34:58.069
84th show now. So, yeah. Awesome. Congratulations.
01:34:58.879 --> 01:35:01.760
Thank you. We appreciate her as a cheers. So
01:35:01.760 --> 01:35:05.060
we appreciate you guys. Cheers. Cheers. Is that
01:35:05.060 --> 01:35:07.600
a little Bolcher, by the way? No, they're in
01:35:07.600 --> 01:35:11.699
claws. White claws. All right. Berry series.
01:35:13.800 --> 01:35:18.279
Blackberry, cherry. All the berry. Yeah, that's
01:35:18.279 --> 01:35:22.779
the berries. Do you ladies have a failsafe? The
01:35:22.779 --> 01:35:25.260
way we do this show is we always leave the audience
01:35:25.260 --> 01:35:27.600
wanting more. We introduce the guests to them.
01:35:27.939 --> 01:35:30.720
So we'll leave this last question to you ladies
01:35:30.720 --> 01:35:33.159
and then give out your Instagram, wherever you
01:35:33.159 --> 01:35:36.380
want the audience to follow you. Do you ever
01:35:36.380 --> 01:35:40.119
bring a failsafe with you, like some kind of
01:35:40.119 --> 01:35:43.180
backup? Not like a person, not like garlic or
01:35:43.180 --> 01:35:45.579
whatever, crystals or anything like that. But
01:35:45.579 --> 01:35:48.840
like, God forbid anything happens where you ladies
01:35:48.840 --> 01:35:51.840
are compromised and your equipment isn't backing
01:35:51.840 --> 01:35:54.239
them up. Is there somebody that could come in
01:35:54.239 --> 01:35:57.859
and maybe turn the situation around? Like to
01:35:57.859 --> 01:36:01.060
help us or? Yeah, like I'm thinking a priest
01:36:01.060 --> 01:36:03.039
or something, but like, I don't know. Maybe a
01:36:03.039 --> 01:36:06.619
person or like an element, like a physical object
01:36:06.619 --> 01:36:09.000
or a person. I was thinking person, but maybe
01:36:09.000 --> 01:36:12.710
if you have. Most of the time it's us. Yeah,
01:36:12.729 --> 01:36:15.449
but but we are getting more into like other people
01:36:15.449 --> 01:36:18.310
helping us Because it was like a two -year -old
01:36:18.310 --> 01:36:21.329
team We wanted it to be like our niche because
01:36:21.329 --> 01:36:23.510
there's not I don't think there's really any
01:36:23.510 --> 01:36:27.409
paranormal team that has just two girls and Because
01:36:27.409 --> 01:36:31.010
it's like spooky scary two girls. What are they
01:36:31.010 --> 01:36:36.310
doing? You know, so I Heard and you could run
01:36:36.310 --> 01:36:40.029
this by standards and practices that If you hunt
01:36:40.029 --> 01:36:43.649
ghosts in the nude, they come out a lot quicker
01:36:43.649 --> 01:36:46.489
than if you wear clothes. Behind the scenes.
01:36:48.109 --> 01:36:50.989
These three pictures of us in a trench coat in
01:36:50.989 --> 01:36:53.949
the future. Now you're talking, lady. You want
01:36:53.949 --> 01:36:57.170
a niche. That's a good that's a good niche. No,
01:36:57.609 --> 01:37:00.869
there's nothing under the trench coat. There
01:37:00.869 --> 01:37:03.649
you go. Only ghosts, only ghosts instead of only
01:37:03.649 --> 01:37:06.930
fans. Only ghosts. The nine millimeter. That's
01:37:06.930 --> 01:37:16.199
it. Boom. Shaka. I love it. So Cal Spirit Seekers,
01:37:16.199 --> 01:37:18.079
tell them where they could find you if you want
01:37:18.079 --> 01:37:20.100
to give out, you know, where you ladies are together,
01:37:20.439 --> 01:37:23.220
individual, whatever you got going on. So we're
01:37:23.220 --> 01:37:27.420
on IG, So Cal Spirit Seekers, TikTok, YouTube.
01:37:27.680 --> 01:37:31.800
It's So Cal Spirit Seekers 444. What's the significance
01:37:31.800 --> 01:37:35.340
with 444? It's an angel number. Yeah, it's an
01:37:35.340 --> 01:37:39.300
angel number. It's a positive angel number. So
01:37:39.300 --> 01:37:42.880
first of all, they always say that there's specific
01:37:42.880 --> 01:37:46.539
angel numbers and people talk about like 111
01:37:46.539 --> 01:37:52.619
or 333 -444 -777 -888 and those are significance
01:37:52.619 --> 01:37:57.560
in each. Like triple number will mean a different
01:37:57.560 --> 01:38:01.319
meaning behind it so But they're all supposed
01:38:01.319 --> 01:38:04.000
to be like under this group of being very angelic
01:38:04.000 --> 01:38:06.979
but um Yeah, four four four like the number four
01:38:06.979 --> 01:38:10.140
in just general just has a play like with my
01:38:10.140 --> 01:38:14.079
mom's passing her dad So yeah, so it just made
01:38:14.079 --> 01:38:16.920
sense to have four four four today is actually
01:38:16.920 --> 01:38:22.979
in my dad's birthday Happy birthday Almost three
01:38:22.979 --> 01:38:26.319
years ago in June Sorry to hear that. It's okay.
01:38:26.560 --> 01:38:30.560
Thank you. Yeah, he's a magnificent man. So yeah,
01:38:31.880 --> 01:38:34.699
she's one month apart from him. So next month.
01:38:34.819 --> 01:38:39.359
Yeah. Wow. Wow. Your mom is one month from her
01:38:39.359 --> 01:38:44.699
dad in the past. Oh, no, no birthday. Oh, okay.
01:38:45.140 --> 01:38:47.479
Yeah. I'm like, wait a second, these ladies are
01:38:47.479 --> 01:38:49.840
way more connected than we've gotten into. We
01:38:49.840 --> 01:38:52.159
are really, really, really connected and different.
01:38:52.439 --> 01:38:54.479
Yeah. Like if you put all our birthdays together,
01:38:54.800 --> 01:38:57.180
our birthdays are a month apart too. Pretty much.
01:38:57.380 --> 01:39:01.220
Wait, so you're the 30th of May. Yeah. My dad's
01:39:01.220 --> 01:39:04.739
the 30th of March. When's your mom's again? The
01:39:04.739 --> 01:39:08.199
29th. Yeah. And I'm 26th of June. So we're a
01:39:08.199 --> 01:39:10.739
month apart just like her, her mom and my dad.
01:39:11.060 --> 01:39:13.340
So the bass player of live is the 30th of May
01:39:13.340 --> 01:39:19.149
as well. Yeah. Shout out Patrick. Mine is July
01:39:19.149 --> 01:39:22.750
23rd, so I'm close to it. Oh, cool. Nice. So
01:39:22.750 --> 01:39:24.930
what does that put you as far as astrological
01:39:24.930 --> 01:39:29.609
sign, Chad? Well, a lot of astronomical calendars,
01:39:29.729 --> 01:39:31.550
whatever. I'm on the cusp, but now they've kind
01:39:31.550 --> 01:39:33.369
of changed that. So I was on the cusp of cancer
01:39:33.369 --> 01:39:37.409
and Leo. Yeah. I kind of lead towards both. I'm
01:39:37.409 --> 01:39:39.880
not completely Leo, not completely cancer. Cancers
01:39:39.880 --> 01:39:44.380
are like real sensitive and emotional. I feel
01:39:44.380 --> 01:39:48.520
you're a little bit more tough. You know, maybe
01:39:48.520 --> 01:39:50.060
you have that. I was just pointing at Kristen.
01:39:55.140 --> 01:39:58.939
I'm a filler. I can feel people and cancers are
01:39:58.939 --> 01:40:01.680
very like. They say, like, more on the psychic
01:40:01.680 --> 01:40:03.699
realm. They feel things, the energy. That's why
01:40:03.699 --> 01:40:06.960
you're more sensitive. And I do get a little
01:40:06.960 --> 01:40:09.359
more sensitive with things, you know, energy
01:40:09.359 --> 01:40:13.119
-wise and stuff. I'm a filler, too, ladies. You're
01:40:13.119 --> 01:40:16.180
her fave. But anyway, I'm a Gemini. They say
01:40:16.180 --> 01:40:19.260
I have two different things, but I feel like
01:40:19.260 --> 01:40:22.659
I'm always this cuckoo bird. Yeah, she's a cuckoo
01:40:22.659 --> 01:40:26.659
bird. I'd rather be a cuckoo bird than a, you
01:40:26.659 --> 01:40:31.909
know, a plain Jane. greed. Oh, we have two cancers,
01:40:31.949 --> 01:40:36.710
right? Yeah. Boom, shaka laka. That would be
01:40:36.710 --> 01:40:43.050
a little Leo mixed in. All right. Fun investigation
01:40:43.050 --> 01:40:47.630
time, though. I hope I don't scare off the spirits
01:40:47.630 --> 01:40:50.850
that scare me off. We'll see. I was just gonna
01:40:50.850 --> 01:40:54.670
say guys off. That would be the best of Actually,
01:40:54.789 --> 01:40:56.369
they've already scared John off and he hasn't
01:40:56.369 --> 01:41:00.489
even been there yet. I can't wait. I can't wait
01:41:00.489 --> 01:41:03.149
for you to be here on film. Something happens
01:41:03.149 --> 01:41:06.550
and you are scared and like crying for Mama Lana.
01:41:06.789 --> 01:41:11.619
That's all. Yeah. Yeah. I told you so, dude.
01:41:11.739 --> 01:41:13.859
That's why I don't want to go. But you wanted
01:41:13.859 --> 01:41:16.479
to. And here we are. You shit your pants on camera.
01:41:16.680 --> 01:41:20.880
Good stuff. But we have to plan for an investigation,
01:41:21.119 --> 01:41:23.779
guys. We would love to take you out and be able
01:41:23.779 --> 01:41:26.359
to show you guys what we do. It'd be a privilege
01:41:26.359 --> 01:41:28.439
to do it. So we'll have to plan accordingly.
01:41:28.939 --> 01:41:31.239
Well, I'll be in contact on Instagram for sure,
01:41:31.340 --> 01:41:32.779
because I definitely want to do it. We'll figure
01:41:32.779 --> 01:41:36.210
out some dates. That'd be fun. Sounds good. And
01:41:36.210 --> 01:41:38.170
we're coming into the coast, y 'all. We're gonna
01:41:38.170 --> 01:41:39.710
get you. We're gonna get you. It's gonna be your
01:41:39.710 --> 01:41:43.270
turn soon. Yeah. I wish I would have known that
01:41:43.270 --> 01:41:44.829
I would have booked my trip closer to when you
01:41:44.829 --> 01:41:47.069
guys are gonna be here because I just booked
01:41:47.069 --> 01:41:50.649
the ticket to come back on the first week of
01:41:50.649 --> 01:41:56.119
May. So that would have been cool. but we got
01:41:56.119 --> 01:41:58.680
plans um like our summer hasn't been booked yet
01:41:58.680 --> 01:42:00.840
i just posted the other day about like dms about
01:42:00.840 --> 01:42:03.539
collabing because we are so booked next month
01:42:03.539 --> 01:42:05.979
in may but like we want to start scheduling june
01:42:05.979 --> 01:42:09.659
and july so if you guys can you know clear out
01:42:09.659 --> 01:42:12.420
some dates then we'd love to coordinate something
01:42:12.420 --> 01:42:14.420
yeah i'm probably coming back here around my
01:42:14.420 --> 01:42:17.460
birthday in july 23rd with my kids i don't know
01:42:17.460 --> 01:42:20.399
if that that can work out as a time frame i'd
01:42:20.399 --> 01:42:22.489
love to go to gettysburg with you guys or Something
01:42:22.489 --> 01:42:25.569
like that. Something real, like where like mad
01:42:25.569 --> 01:42:28.550
people have like lost on that specific space.
01:42:28.649 --> 01:42:30.710
Like the Queen Mary could have been going back
01:42:30.710 --> 01:42:32.449
and forth or just involved with stuff. But that's
01:42:32.449 --> 01:42:35.569
like an actual land where there's a lot of history
01:42:35.569 --> 01:42:37.909
involved there and lots of dust. But yeah, I
01:42:37.909 --> 01:42:40.649
mean, there's a lot of other places like we're
01:42:40.649 --> 01:42:43.069
filming our episode next weekend at the Tudor
01:42:43.069 --> 01:42:46.890
House in Lake Arrowhead. Oh, cool. You guys mentioned
01:42:46.890 --> 01:42:49.859
that. Yeah. That place is awesome. You know,
01:42:50.020 --> 01:42:53.520
it's like super, um, active there. We love it.
01:42:53.520 --> 01:42:55.960
We've recorded and investigate a tiny bit. It
01:42:55.960 --> 01:43:01.699
wasn't like a full on, but it's super, um, super
01:43:01.699 --> 01:43:04.460
haunted there. And there were several spirits
01:43:04.460 --> 01:43:07.039
and it just dates back for like almost a hundred
01:43:07.039 --> 01:43:10.119
years. So does this screen share have anything
01:43:10.119 --> 01:43:13.220
mean anything to you ladies? The Flying Dutchman.
01:43:13.399 --> 01:43:16.079
Yes. I've heard about this. Like the, um, the
01:43:16.079 --> 01:43:18.659
ghost ship one. The ghost ship. Yeah. I don't
01:43:18.659 --> 01:43:21.100
know. I thought he was putting this up for, I
01:43:21.100 --> 01:43:23.159
guess. Oh, was this Bobby just putting this up?
01:43:25.300 --> 01:43:27.560
Yeah. Yeah. Flying Dutchman is a known haunted
01:43:27.560 --> 01:43:31.439
ship. All right. Our producer, Bobby, will just,
01:43:31.439 --> 01:43:33.800
you know, put up stuff and we're supposed to
01:43:33.800 --> 01:43:36.699
figure it out. Yeah. So Bobby, what are you showing
01:43:36.699 --> 01:43:39.600
us here? I know we lost the screen for a second.
01:43:40.279 --> 01:43:42.600
At first I thought the whole show ended and I
01:43:42.600 --> 01:43:45.079
was like three, two, one, bye. I was like, wait,
01:43:45.420 --> 01:43:47.260
I saw you guys on the right side, so I was like,
01:43:47.260 --> 01:43:50.920
oh, we're good still. Yeah, we added Bobby to
01:43:50.920 --> 01:43:53.579
the show to make our lives a little bit more
01:43:53.579 --> 01:43:57.439
difficult and then to add some comedic levity
01:43:57.439 --> 01:44:01.949
to the show at times. So funny. But again, thank
01:44:01.949 --> 01:44:04.829
you, ladies. We will have you on again if you'll
01:44:04.829 --> 01:44:09.010
be a guest again. It was fun. We're doing a massive
01:44:09.010 --> 01:44:11.670
tour in May. So we're doing a two week road trip
01:44:11.670 --> 01:44:14.270
filming all over the country. So we'd love to
01:44:14.270 --> 01:44:16.550
do like a follow up to it to like maybe share
01:44:16.550 --> 01:44:20.829
some like cool footage we found some findings,
01:44:21.369 --> 01:44:25.170
some, you know, our idea. Yeah, but um. Definitely,
01:44:25.170 --> 01:44:27.189
let's do a follow up maybe first part of June
01:44:27.189 --> 01:44:29.689
to we'll do some like sneak peek footage with
01:44:29.689 --> 01:44:32.970
you guys like we won't even show it on our Instagram
01:44:32.970 --> 01:44:35.630
or our platforms, but we'll do with you guys.
01:44:36.109 --> 01:44:38.710
Okay, yeah, let's we'll coordinate that. Yeah,
01:44:38.930 --> 01:44:40.770
that's one thing we learned here ladies the best
01:44:40.770 --> 01:44:46.569
way to find ghosts. Without without clothes.
01:44:47.229 --> 01:44:51.569
There we go. All right, the soul cow spirit seekers
01:44:51.569 --> 01:44:53.710
we want to thank them for coming on. They were
01:44:53.710 --> 01:44:57.789
fun, fun, fun. Thank you guys so much for having
01:44:57.789 --> 01:45:00.789
us. Yes, we had an amazing time and it was great.
01:45:00.789 --> 01:45:04.010
Now it's time to investigate. Peace out. Yeah.
01:45:06.369 --> 01:45:10.649
Woohoo. They are some fun there. Yeah, energy
01:45:10.649 --> 01:45:14.069
for days. Yeah, yeah. They have great energy
01:45:14.069 --> 01:45:15.710
together. Like you can tell they're really good
01:45:15.710 --> 01:45:18.760
friends. It's cool. For sure. I thought they
01:45:18.760 --> 01:45:21.560
were lesbian lovers, sisters. I went all over
01:45:21.560 --> 01:45:24.859
the gamut with what they could have been. Let's
01:45:24.859 --> 01:45:28.199
bring our young Bobby on real quick to say hello
01:45:28.199 --> 01:45:32.340
and all that jazz and ask him why. What were
01:45:32.340 --> 01:45:34.060
you putting up there, Bobby? Just the flying
01:45:34.060 --> 01:45:37.899
Dutchman? No, I was just I was going through
01:45:37.899 --> 01:45:43.119
a bunch of top 10 terrifying hauntings from history.
01:45:43.600 --> 01:45:48.000
Cool. You know what you could do? uh is be like
01:45:48.000 --> 01:45:51.640
what i'm sharing is top 10 whatever like in that
01:45:51.640 --> 01:45:53.180
chat and then i would kind of know i just pulled
01:45:53.180 --> 01:45:55.539
it up there kind of i thought it was like maybe
01:45:55.539 --> 01:45:57.619
related to whatever they were the queen mary
01:45:57.619 --> 01:45:59.899
or something the queen mary yeah yeah or the
01:45:59.899 --> 01:46:03.359
uh the yeah it was in the queen mary's in there
01:46:03.359 --> 01:46:06.539
too it was like number uh six or the the pubic
01:46:06.539 --> 01:46:10.239
harry did you hear how uh how haunted that place
01:46:10.239 --> 01:46:14.479
is no pubic harry yeah my friend jody's putting
01:46:14.479 --> 01:46:17.130
up a hope hope New Hope, Pennsylvania is pretty
01:46:17.130 --> 01:46:20.890
haunted, too. That's like the Jersey, the Delaware
01:46:20.890 --> 01:46:23.869
River, New Jersey, Pennsylvania border, New Hope.
01:46:24.470 --> 01:46:27.869
Yes, dude, I've been there. There's like, like
01:46:27.869 --> 01:46:29.949
driving through and I think I've stopped in town.
01:46:30.090 --> 01:46:31.770
It's like a kind of cool town, but there's like
01:46:31.770 --> 01:46:35.750
these little one lane bridges that kind of cut
01:46:35.750 --> 01:46:37.529
through and you almost have to wait on one side
01:46:37.529 --> 01:46:40.369
for a car to come through. And really, that town's
01:46:40.369 --> 01:46:45.920
haunted. That's what Jody's saying. Jody. Yeah.
01:46:47.100 --> 01:46:51.479
New Jersey is a very, very strange, strange state.
01:46:51.600 --> 01:46:54.720
They even have a weird New Jersey. Oh, yeah.
01:46:55.159 --> 01:46:58.319
Oh, yeah, yeah. Shows all the all the all the
01:46:58.319 --> 01:47:00.199
all the weird and strange things that are in
01:47:00.199 --> 01:47:02.220
all the weird haunts. So like back in the day,
01:47:02.439 --> 01:47:04.840
the the magazine was kind of cool because, you
01:47:04.840 --> 01:47:06.659
know, there was no real Internet or whatever.
01:47:06.659 --> 01:47:08.960
So like would tell you all the cool spots in
01:47:08.960 --> 01:47:13.560
New Jersey. Tom Piazza, Bobby, so a good friend
01:47:13.560 --> 01:47:15.750
of mine growing up, his sister. He had older
01:47:15.750 --> 01:47:18.310
sisters who could like drive and smoke cigarettes
01:47:18.310 --> 01:47:20.510
and all that stuff. So one of his older sisters
01:47:20.510 --> 01:47:23.569
took me to one of these weird New Jersey spots,
01:47:23.770 --> 01:47:27.649
Chad. And it's it's like a town where the houses
01:47:27.649 --> 01:47:31.010
are all for midgets. So it's like they're really
01:47:31.010 --> 01:47:35.710
small, tiny houses. So so people drive past this
01:47:35.710 --> 01:47:37.890
like little town all the time and like yell shit
01:47:37.890 --> 01:47:40.930
because it's a weird thing. And it's like an
01:47:40.930 --> 01:47:43.729
attractive spot in this weird New Jersey magazine.
01:47:43.729 --> 01:47:46.779
And they get Pissed, dude, like they're not shooting
01:47:46.779 --> 01:47:48.840
at you, but they'll shoot like guns up in the
01:47:48.840 --> 01:47:51.020
air to, like, let you know, get the fuck out
01:47:51.020 --> 01:47:55.020
of here. And she made you feel she saw spirits
01:47:55.020 --> 01:47:57.220
and new hope. And there's a vortex there. I've
01:47:57.220 --> 01:47:59.060
heard that, too, is the energy vortex and new
01:47:59.060 --> 01:48:05.319
hope. Oh, shit. So that's even freakier. So I
01:48:05.319 --> 01:48:07.989
want. Do you folks think something happened in
01:48:07.989 --> 01:48:09.810
New Hope in New Hope or they're just kind of
01:48:09.810 --> 01:48:11.789
congregating here? Like, what do we think the
01:48:11.789 --> 01:48:14.510
well, George Washington costs across the Delaware
01:48:14.510 --> 01:48:17.550
right near New Hope. So that happened in history
01:48:17.550 --> 01:48:21.029
for sure. And I don't know what anything else
01:48:21.029 --> 01:48:23.149
very historic that happened there besides that.
01:48:23.170 --> 01:48:25.590
But I mean, you could have had some people die
01:48:25.590 --> 01:48:28.970
there from from disease or something in a revolutionary
01:48:28.970 --> 01:48:31.810
war, maybe. I don't know. Yeah. Speculating,
01:48:32.050 --> 01:48:35.920
obviously, could have been like a big you know,
01:48:36.000 --> 01:48:38.359
white plantation and a lot of slaves died. It
01:48:38.359 --> 01:48:40.479
could be fucking anything if you if you think
01:48:40.479 --> 01:48:45.880
about it. And I mean, America is pretty much
01:48:45.880 --> 01:48:51.340
built on a complete native Native American graveyard.
01:48:51.739 --> 01:48:54.460
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, exactly. I was just going to
01:48:54.460 --> 01:48:56.880
say it was probably Bobby's family that ruined
01:48:56.880 --> 01:48:58.939
everything in New Hope and caused them all to
01:48:58.939 --> 01:49:02.680
perish. So I'm getting close to my call. I got
01:49:02.680 --> 01:49:05.350
to go. Yep. Say goodbye to the audience there,
01:49:05.390 --> 01:49:10.010
Mr. Rob Bobby Yankee. Bye, everybody. Thank you.
01:49:10.069 --> 01:49:13.250
The one and only Bobby. And then we shall see
01:49:13.250 --> 01:49:15.750
you folks on Tuesday. Chad, this has been a fun
01:49:15.750 --> 01:49:17.949
week. Regular scheduled. Regular scheduled programming.
01:49:17.970 --> 01:49:19.989
Brian Shapiro, is that who we're doing? Yes,
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sir. Yes, sir. All right. Sweet.